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Old 03-18-2014, 08:03 AM
 
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Poland’s defence ministry has announced it will re-launch plans to establish a joint Polish, Ukrainian and Lithuanian military brigade.

The ministry said defence ministers will meet this week to discuss the formation of the brigade that would straddle Nato’s eastern border and bring Ukraine’s armed forces closer to the Western fold.

Poland plans to reform military brigade with Ukraine and Lithuania - Telegraph
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:27 AM
 
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This has major implications in relation to possible NATO involvement in Ukraine, whilst Britain has just announced it is to suspend military cooperation with Russia.

Ukraine crisis: Britain suspends military co-operation with Russia - Telegraph
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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They know they can't depend on the US anymore.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Poland, Ukraine and the Baltic states ought to have a regional pact, that is a totally fine idea. As long as Poland and the Baltic states leave NATO first.

In fact, I think all the former Warsaw Pact states and successor states that are now in NATO ought to split off and form their own security arrangement.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Poland’s defence ministry has announced it will re-launch plans to establish a joint Polish, Ukrainian and Lithuanian military brigade.

The ministry said defence ministers will meet this week to discuss the formation of the brigade that would straddle Nato’s eastern border and bring Ukraine’s armed forces closer to the Western fold.

Poland plans to reform military brigade with Ukraine and Lithuania - Telegraph
At last, a country and leader with some stones.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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Poland has a long history of resistance. They fended off the Ottoman's !
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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However, any action they take, and consequences of, will not have the support of NATO.

NATO is a defensive alliance, members do not get NATO support for offensive and/or antagonism actions they take. Merely including a non-NATO member in this brigade undermines any support they will have from NATO.

SO in this instance, if this brigade decides to make a military move on Crimea, then Russia will be free to respond to the countries in the brigade, and NATO is under no obligation to support.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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I doubt it took much in the way of coercion.

The joint military brigade isn't a new idea. And in the face of heightened Russian aggression, given the three countries involved, it makes sense.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Poland’s defence ministry has announced it will re-launch plans to establish a joint Polish, Ukrainian and Lithuanian military brigade.

The ministry said defence ministers will meet this week to discuss the formation of the brigade that would straddle Nato’s eastern border and bring Ukraine’s armed forces closer to the Western fold.

Poland plans to reform military brigade with Ukraine and Lithuania - Telegraph



This is an example of the clear thinking that plunged Europe and the World into the First World War. By the way August 1914 was almost 100 years ago.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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good point

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