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I agree. The left tries to magnify the facts that 45-50 million can't afford health care. Yet they neglect govt data that shows close to 15 million of uninsured have household incomes over $75k. Those people chose not to carry insurance in most cases. And even if they couldn't afford it the Aca still wouldn't help most of them since they are close to the 400% poverty line cut off.
Plus another 15 million without insurance are generally healthy and under age 35. The Aca costs is actually more expensive for many of them and even when factoring in subsidies the costs would be roughly the same pre Aca.
So we are really talking about 15 million who really can't afford health care. That's about 5% of the country. About the same percentage as those in Germany and switerland.
That is a lie pushed by Fox and the rest of the fascist media. Seems like you got that entire script from Faux News and posted it here. People without insurance are those denied coverage or ousted by their providers via the old trick of raising premiums until they are unaffordable. Of course some have opted out, but neither you nor Fox has knowledge of the age-to-personal income breakdown of this group.
Since I never get an answer I will ask you - how is the corporate republican ER system better than the ACA, single-payer, or the systems of civilized countries like Canada and Germany? You can be the first to answer.
About 40 % of people who are alive will contract cancer in their lifetime. Do tell me, where does an uninsured patient go when they contract cancer...the E.R.?
And tell me, what happens when cancer is allowed to spread because an uninsured patient cant receive treatment or surgery for their cancer.
Should an individual be allowed to suffer or die because they were denied health insurance on the individual market because of acne they had as a teen?
What part of this will help the 30,000,000 expected to go without insurance?
You can sit here and whine and cry that people need insurance, but without the ability to answer the underlying problem which is tens of millions will STILL not have insurance, then the problem wasnt fixed.. Not even remotely.
That is a lie pushed by Fox and the rest of the fascist media. Seems like you got that entire script from Faux News and posted it here. People without insurance are those denied coverage or ousted by their providers via the old trick of raising premiums until they are unaffordable. Of course some have opted out, but neither you nor Fox has knowledge of the age-to-personal income breakdown of this group.
Since I never get an answer I will ask you - how is the corporate republican ER system better than the ACA, single-payer, or the systems of civilized countries like Canada and Germany? Please answer.
Then why have so many chosen to pay the fine rather than obtain insurance? According to you, people were denied coverage, well now they cant be.. But yet they STILL wont get insurance.
Of course those who were outed, or denied coverage would be the very very sick, tens of millions of them, so you would think there wouldnt be tens of millions going without..
I agree. The left tries to magnify the facts that 45-50 million can't afford health care. Yet they neglect govt data that shows close to 15 million of uninsured have household incomes over $75k. Those people chose not to carry insurance in most cases. And even if they couldn't afford it the Aca still wouldn't help most of them since they are close to the 400% poverty line cut off.
Plus another 15 million without insurance are generally healthy and under age 35. The Aca costs is actually more expensive for many of them and even when factoring in subsidies the costs would be roughly the same pre Aca.
So we are really talking about 15 million who really can't afford health care. That's about 5% of the country. About the same percentage as those in Germany and switerland.
Two other groups included in that inflated 45 million figure are non-citizens, and citizens who qualify for Medicaid, CHIP, and other healthcare programs.
IIRC, even Obama eventually lowered the # he used to around 30 million.
Wouldnt that be true pre ACA? As the Supreme Court stated, they arent there to legislate against the stupidity of the policies in which politicians enact, voted in by the citizens.
Wouldnt that be true pre ACA? As the Supreme Court stated, they arent there to legislate against the stupidity of the policies in which politicians enact, voted in by the citizens.
So, what is Plan B? How do you force the uninsured to buy the insurance? Bribing with subsidies didn't work. Threats of fines don't work.
So here we are. 6 months of enrollment time over and the majority don't want it.
Maybe that's why we conservatives opposed it, knowing that you can't force a free people to purchase a product.
Then I'll ask you, why is the "conservative" emergency room system better than the ACA or single-payer? Why would you oppose the public option system?
No "conservative" has answered this yet. Only the right wing media says the public at large don't want universal healthcare, and you are just parroting Fox.
I take it you have a corporate plan. What makes you think they won't drop you if you or a family member gets seriously ill? Don't say "government protection" please.
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