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Old 03-26-2014, 02:07 PM
 
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"Socialism" isn't always bad and scary. Our military and interstate highway systems are basically "socialist" concepts, but I bet a vast majority of Americans wouldn't want to do away with either.
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Originally Posted by FlamencoFreak View Post
In order to "provide for the common defense" by Constitutional authority, the military was established (Article I Section 8). This is not "socialism." Our highway system would also be covered under this Section, coming under the "General Welfare" heading (many think this means "welfare" as in government checks to the poor).

It's a huge stretch to imagine that these provisions are "socialism."
^^^^ Yes MaseMan trying to say a military and highway system is welfare is a huge stretch and it still doesn't fit. It is not sending a check to the poor.

What a wonderful world, it is now acceptable to demand a welfare check. No shame living off the labor of other people. Where is the shame?

 
Old 03-26-2014, 02:09 PM
 
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^^^^ Yes MaseMan trying to say a military and highway system is welfare is a huge stretch and it still doesn't fit. It is not sending a check to the poor.

What a wonderful world, it is now acceptable to demand a welfare check. Where is the shame?
That is a very ignorant comment.

Socialism is redistribution of resources. A highway system is a public resource from which all parties benefit. Public transportation is the same. They are just as "socialist" as welfare or unemployment benefits. Any time you drive on a road, you are living off the labor of other people.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 02:11 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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That is a very ignorant comment.

Socialism is redistribution of resources. A highway system is a public resource from which all parties benefit. Public transportation is the same. They are just as "socialist" as welfare or unemployment benefits. Any time you drive on a road, you are living off the labor of other people.
Only you could believe building a freeway and sending one person a check is the same thing
 
Old 03-26-2014, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Where it's cold in winter.
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That is a very ignorant comment.

Socialism is redistribution of resources. A highway system is a public resource from which all parties benefit. Public transportation is the same. They are just as "socialist" as welfare or unemployment benefits. Any time you drive on a road, you are living off the labor of other people.
Oh, please!
 
Old 03-26-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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Only you could believe building a freeway and sending one person a check is the same thing
You are asking me to subsidize your driving dependency. How is that not living off my labor?
 
Old 03-26-2014, 02:20 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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You are asking me to subsidize your driving dependency. How is that not living off my labor?
Because everyone can use the road, only one person can use a check.

I can't believe I have to actually explain this.

And even if you don't drive, how do you think everything you own, eat and wear gets to your house?
 
Old 03-26-2014, 02:27 PM
 
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You are asking me to subsidize your driving dependency. How is that not living off my labor?
^^^^ An Obama supporter lol. No wonder Obama got elected. He depended on stupidity of the American people. It was obviously an easy sell.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 02:30 PM
 
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Then why are they against charter schools and school vouchers ?
I don't personally think finances should ever impede a child's ability to achieve excellence and in this country they absolutely do. Everyone should have the same educational opportunity. The haves and have nots should be determined by how one makes the most of that opportunity, not what elusive grammar school they were financially able to attend.

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Because everyone can use the road, only one person can use a check.

I can't believe I have to actually explain this.

And even if you don't drive, how do you think everything you own, eat and wear gets to your house?
I think you are missing the point.

We live in a socialized society in many aspects. Some people in this country have obsessive rage against welfare because they are either greedy or envious.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 02:31 PM
 
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^^^^ An Obama supporter lol. No wonder Obama got elected. He depended on stupidity of the American people. It was obviously an easy sell.
Do you have anything better than personal insults and your unhealthy obsession of our duly elected president?

Stay classy, petch751.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 02:33 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I don't personally think finances should ever impede a child's ability to achieve excellence and in this country they absolutely do. Everyone should have the same educational opportunity. The haves and have nots should be determined by how one makes the most of that opportunity, not what elusive grammar school they were financially able to attend.



I think you are missing the point.

We live in a socialized society in many aspects. Some people in this country have obsessive rage against welfare because they are either greedy or envious.

The problem I have with welfare is those that abuse it.
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