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Thank you for showing us another shooting incident in a state with gun laws that are too relaxed.
Hmm... so proof that someone illegally posessing a gun in their car was able to prevent further bloodshed doesn't prove the point that allowing a student body to be armed would have severely limited the capabilties of the VT murderer?
When people get depressed and anxious, they hit rock bottom. When you hit rock bottom, you don't think you can lift yourself up. This kid was obviously filled with angst/hurt, had access to a gun at home (as shooters ALWAYS do) and decided to use the weapon to announce his emotions.
It's all about gun control - allowing guns into the RIGHT homes.
Well yes, I get that. My point is that just because some people are idiots ( like this guy) that doesn't mean everyone (except the criminals of course) should be deprived the right to protect themselves using a firearm.
My point is that maybe people should be paying a little MORE attention to what their loved ones are going through. Maybe people should be paying attention to where they leave their firearms.
I own a .38. When I am home, its loaded and laying in my bedside table, literally within arms reach should someone break in my home. If I am NOT at home, it has a trigger lock on it (gun unloaded). If someone were to get thatgun with the trigger lock on it, all they could do is throw it at someone. That is the responsible way to own a gun, uless of course you have a gun safe which is even better.
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Guns are great for killing human beings, in fact I own one for this specific purpose and no other(aside from target practice). I also hope that I never have to use this weapon for this purpose but better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
In a greater sense, why does anything have to have a purpose even if it has the ability to kill? Are you so offended by the weapons of poverty, inequity, and injustice that also take the lives of people each day, only not in such a grand fashion but all equally unnecessary?
The argument that this youth committed this act BECAUSE the gun was available is not an answer to why, only to how. From what I understand he was depressed and extremely unhappy and very disillusioned to which I would wonder why does one unhappy youth go on to be President and another seeks attention that he felt he was not getting by killing others and ultimately himself.
You just answered "why" as I have above as well. He hit rock bottom, saw the gun as an opportunity and took advantage of it. Nearly every mass-killer has either bought the gun due to relaxed gun laws, or stolen it from home.
How this doesn't translate into a gun control issue for so many people is way beyond me. Note the gun deaths by country chart in the previous pages. Take a hard look at it, think about it. Still see nothing wrong?
But really, you didn't answer my question. What are guns good for (besides law enforcement, of course)?
And just because your posts are verbose doesn't mean you're correct.
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Well yes, I get that. My point is that just because some people are idiots ( like this guy) that doesn't mean everyone (except the criminals of course) should be deprived the right to protect themselves using a firearm.
My point is that maybe people should be paying a little MORE attention to what their loved ones are going through. Maybe people should be paying attention to where they leave their firearms.
I own a .38. When I am home, its loaded and laying in my bedside table, literally within arms reach should someone break in my home. If I am NOT at home, it has a trigger lock on it (gun unloaded). If someone were to get thatgun with the trigger lock on it, all they could do is throw it at someone. That is the responsible way to own a gun, uless of course you have a gun safe which is even better.
Just being an idiot is MUCH different than being a mass-murderer. And yes, because "some people are idiots" means everyone should be deprived of the right. When countless lives are lost because of "some..idiots", something must be done.
Sorry, maybe that's just the humane part of me coming out.
But really, you didn't answer my question. What are guns good for (besides law enforcement, of course)?
As you just answered your own question. For the enforcement of law. I am by law allowed to protect and defend my life and the life of my family from the danger posed by nefarious individuals who wish to do me harm. This in my opinion is good.
It would not bother me personally if there were no guns in the world, in fact, ode be to joy but this is about as realistic as George Bush pronouncing colloquialism or me winning the lotto three times in a row. Until such time as this Utopian notion exist in reality, then I will continue to obey the law and blame and give credit to my keyboard for what you all see here.
Just being an idiot is MUCH different than being a mass-murderer. And yes, because "some people are idiots" means everyone should be deprived of the right. When countless lives are lost because of "some..idiots", something must be done.
Sorry, maybe that's just the humane part of me coming out.
No one is going to deprive me of the right to defend myself and my daughter and my home because of someone like this.
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