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Old 04-05-2014, 08:29 PM
 
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And there you have it lily. Others decided to have children they couldn't afford so it is now everyone else's responsibility. Hell, why don't we all just have 10 kids, everyone else will pay for them.

When you have kids lily you won't mind saying no to your kids because you have to pay more taxes to support someone else's kids. No, you won't mind working long hours being away from your kids because someone else would rather stay home and raise their kids, No, you won't mind working until you are 80 years old because you couldn't put money away because you had to pay for someone else's kids. Nah!

You have the right to work but not the right to look out for you and your family. Their needs come first.

 
Old 04-05-2014, 08:32 PM
 
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ding, ding, ding... lilyflower says it like it is and a hell of a lot of people agree.

Free money
Be grateful
Don't complain

But some people want more. Welfare is not meant to be a life of luxury

Now if we could also stop politicians from buying people at the top and at the bottom, the middle class could keep some of their money and live a better life.
Uhmmm excuse me? Free money? I don't think so. Ive worked and payed taxes that pay into the welfare system. So in the future if i need it its there. Should i feel greatful? Yes that there is welfare but no i paid for it. Thats the misguided misconception you have.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 08:36 PM
 
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Uhmmm excuse me? Free money? I don't think so. Ive worked and payed taxes that pay into the welfare system. So in the future if i need it its there. Should i feel greatful? Yes that there is welfare but no i paid for it. Thats the misguided misconception you have.
And that reminds me, we, those of us who pay taxes put into a cookie jar called social security, but did you notice how the left bi*ches and rants on old people who are being paid ss even though they paid into it. No mention of those playing the system, who never put in yet draw out.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 08:37 PM
 
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And why one start would be drug testing but I remember when it was considered lefties bounced off the wall. yet many people "who work" are required to take drug test even surprise testing to keep their jobs but it's ok for the people on welfare to spend the money we work hard for on drugs.
Educate yourself on the drug testing industry, while you're at it.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 08:39 PM
 
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Educate yourself on the drug testing industry, while you're at it.
Oh I thought you were not talking to me?
 
Old 04-05-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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Or Walmarts Total revenue was $129.7 billion, Walmart's labor costs amounts to about 1 percent of the company's annual sales, so we are responsible for paying welfare to walmart employees so that walmart can make $129.7 billion a year because they refuse to pay a living wage.
Point well taken, but in the spirit of accuracy, revenue is not equivalent to earnings. That said, my company's labor cost is about 20% of revenue, and they are cheapskates (compared to the good old days of unionized labor). One percent is shameful.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 08:42 PM
 
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This greed is not just a left or right problem, poor and the rich have it to. Its a human issue and society issue.

@lilyflower

Hope my assessment was fair enough?
 
Old 04-05-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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Oh I thought you were not talking to me?
Can't resist. You're such an easy target.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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Or Walmarts Total revenue was $129.7 billion, Walmart's labor costs amounts to about 1 percent of the company's annual sales, so we are responsible for paying welfare to walmart employees so that walmart can make $129.7 billion a year because they refuse to pay a living wage.
Hint, you can't fight Walmart so you would be better served to increase your marketable skills to that which companies would be willing to pay higher wages. A better idea would be to think of something you love to do and turn it into a business. If you hold out for Walmart you will always be poor. Why waste time fighting it? Life 101.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 08:46 PM
 
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Point well taken, but in the spirit of accuracy, revenue is not equivalent to earnings. That said, my company's labor cost is about 20% of revenue, and they are cheapskates (compared to the good old days of unionized labor). One percent is shameful.
Thats not even adding the money behind Wal-Mart’s rapid expansion in the United States has been its extensive use of public money. This includes more than $1.2 billion in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost financing and outright grants from state and local governments around the country. In addition, taxpayers indirectly subsidize the company by paying the healthcare costs of Wal-Mart employees who don’t receive coverage on the job and instead turn to public programs such as Medicaid.
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