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Old 03-26-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Manufactured liberal outrage. Nowhere does it say they will dump into streams.

Notice the protagonists departed this thread in a huge hurry once their lie was exposed.

You think they would learn from their idiot hero in the WH.
Brings to mind the transition in 2001 when Clinton left office and GWB came in.

In the last few days before Clinton left, he issued a bunch of orders changing the maximum limits of various chemicals that were permissible in drinking water. For several decades, they had been some X millionths of a percent, a tiny percentage that doctors and scientists had agreed for a long time were completely harmless because they were so miniscule.

Then Clinton changed them just before he left, to about 1/100 of that tiny percentage. It was a change that would have required industrial plants all over the country to junk the purification machinery they had been using for years and install all-new, hugely expensive machines, in place of equipment that had been keeping the water perfectly safe all that time. Costs would have skyrocketed, and the water would have been no safer than it already was.

A few weeks later when Bush took office, he routinely cancelled Clinton's last-minute changes, and restored the standards that had kept the water safe for decades.

And the liberals (in and out of the media) immediately started screaming "BUSH IS POISONING THE WATER! BUSH IS POURING HUNDREDS OF TIMES MORE POLLUTION INTO THE WATER THAN IS CURRENTLY PERMISSIBLE!!!"

Wasn't until Fox News and a few other responsible media outlets, did some research and found what had really happened. But all the public would remember, was that BUSH INCREASED POLLUTION A HUNDREDFOLD!!!

Manufactured liberal outrage isn't anything new. In fact, it's a growth industry, and has been for quite a while. Lying and deceit are routine with these people, in part because the truth never serves their agenda. And it looks like it just grew again, with this fake "Dumping coal wastes into streams" that isn't happening.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:21 PM
 
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A regulation that would actually hold companies accountable for when they pollute streams, etc ...
Specifically what does this new regulation do? What benefits does it provide over the current ones? What are it's costs?

When you can tell us that be sure to let Congress know too. If they are hiding this there is a reason they are hiding it.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Has the person who started the thread, vanished when he got debunked?
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:59 PM
 
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Jobs that only exist by polluting our air and water aren't worth having. Air and water are the essentials of life.
Your whole premise has been outed as a lie.
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:48 PM
 
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So what the bill is doing is thwarting the Dept of Interior's excessive overreach and ongoing mission to regulate profitable industries out of business. Especially those that run counter to unprofitable (and at the current technological stage, economically unsustainable) green initiatives.

To all get together and levy a an ecologically responsible medium term disposition on how to dispose of by products of energy production.

What's wrong with that?
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Do you have a link to some actual facts, and not just a worthless blog post that only describes the legislation in question as "a bill?"
google is your friend.

HR2824 is the bill.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:31 PM
 
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So what the bill is doing is thwarting the Dept of Interior's excessive overreach and ongoing mission to regulate profitable industries out of business. Especially those that run counter to unprofitable (and at the current technological stage, economically unsustainable) green initiatives.

To all get together and levy a an ecologically responsible medium term disposition on how to dispose of by products of energy production.

What's wrong with that?

Obama says he will bankrupt the Coal Industry - YouTube
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:22 PM
 
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US House of Representatives Votes to Virtually Eliminate Protections for Streams from Mining Waste | Southern Environmental Law Center

Here you go they want to reinstate the 2008 Stream Buffer Rule that the Bush administration enacted at the end of its run. The rule virtually eliminated buffer protections between coal mining operations and waterways.
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:07 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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US House votes to allow dumping of coal mining waste into streams | Under the Dome Blog | NewsObserver.com

They really don't care about the average person do they? Even after all the coal ash spills into North Carolina rivers and the WV spill where residents couldn't even drink their local water.
Finally, a thread that means something. The Republican House, here making yet another decision that is embarrassing, are historically pathetic. Great post.
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Old 03-26-2014, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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A regulation that would actually hold companies accountable for when they pollute streams, etc instead of letting them get off on it ala Duke Energy in North Carolina

Tweak to NC law protected Duke's coal ash pits

Don't depend on North Carolina's Department of Environmental Resources, even the police illegally stopped a group of activists monitoring one of their dams.

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At least 39,000 tons of coal ash and 27 million gallons of contaminated water
spilled into the Dan River Feb. 2 after a storm water pipe breach at a Duke
Energy plant in Eden, N.C. The spill coated the river bottom with coal ash for
at least 70 miles in North Carolina and Virginia, leaving piles 5 feet deep in
some locations.


Environmental groups have accused the state Department of Environment and
Natural Resources of ignoring years of coal ash seepage at 32 Duke Energy coal
ash storage basins. The agency cooperated closely with Duke Energy in the days
after the spill, joining the utility in issuing statements that downplayed its
severity.

Duke Energy receives 5 more citations weeks after coal ash spill - latimes.com
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