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Regardless, do you think anyone who's ever had a drink of alcohol is a moron? How about people who use prescription drugs? And what is your definition of a moron? If it's someone with a high IQ, multiple degrees, interesting & challenging hobbies, and a great job, I guess I am a moron after all.
Animals in the wild deliberately ingest fermented fruit. I guess animals are morons, too.
Because eventually, that person will become a burden on society.
How so? Occasional use of marijuana isn't proven to have long-term effects (especially if you start using as an adult), in fact it has been shown to IMPROVE many health conditions. Not that I personally will ever be a "burden," as it's more likely I will be taking care of YOU in your old age... even if I do get sick later on, my financial/family situation will keep me from ever having to depend on others.
Anyone who voluntarily ingests a foreign substance to alter their state of mind is a moron.
I'd say the same of a person who can make such a statement, proving how little experience he has with altering ones perception. Everyone is a moron that doesn't see things your way.
Mostly just court-ordered, in states where they still treat users (whether responsible or not) like criminals. I know of one person who did "rehab" for pot, and it was only because she was forced by the courts.
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You can justify abuse all you want so you can fry your brain with the few brain cells you have left. Not my concern. I just don't want to be around it.
I don't have to "justify" anything... I'm a responsible hard-working adult, and even have the state's permission to use my cannabis. So I will proudly own it, and couldn't care less what you think. Are you paying my bills? If not, then why does your opinion even matter?
Mostly just court-ordered, in states where they still treat users (whether responsible or not) like criminals. I know of one person who did "rehab" for pot, and it was only because she was forced by the courts.
I don't have to "justify" anything... I'm a responsible hard-working adult, and even have the state's permission to use my cannabis. So I will proudly own it, and couldn't care less what you think. Are you paying my bills? If not, then why does your opinion even matter?
Eventually all that garbage you are ingesting will catch up.
Originally Posted by T-310 Anyone who voluntarily ingests a foreign substance to alter their state of mind is a moron.
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How so? Occasional use of marijuana isn't proven to have long-term effects (especially if you start using as an adult), in fact it has been shown to IMPROVE many health conditions. Not that I personally will ever be a "burden," as it's more likely I will be taking care of YOU in your old age... even if I do get sick later on, my financial/family situation will keep me from ever having to depend on others.
Several people have made the same comment. People who are relieved of pain, according to T-310, become a burden on society, never minding that clinical science has proven otherwise!
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Eventually all that garbage you are ingesting will catch up.
You have the arrogance of youth.
It's true "youth is wasted on the young", but with age you're supposed to become wise, not arrogant.
We'd all be better off making GMO crops illegal, if you really want to stop ingesting poisons.
To be clear, I support decriminalizing all drug use. I do not believe it is the government's role to legislate what people do with their own bodies. And, I believe research supports that pot is less harmful than alcohol, tabacco and most other "recreational" drugs.
That said, having smoked pot in the past, no one can tell me the effects wear off in 1 - 3 hours. I have, on more than one occasion taken only 1 or 2 hits of a joint and been wasted from mid-afternoon until I went to to bed 6 or 7 hours later. I have never experienced that from a glass or two of wine! So I guess my question is, What is the difference between use and abuse? From my experience, a little pot left me extremely high for several hours, whereas a glass or two of wine with dinner will provide mild relaxation, but not intoxication.
Again, I think folks should be able to smoke weed legally if they so desire but in my experience, it's such an intense high, it's hard for me to understand how to distinguish between use and abuse. With alcohol, it seems fairly clear -cut, people who are getting intoxicated regularly and experiencing adverse consequences as a result are abusing it. I've known people who abuse pot to the point that they feel the need to smoke it throughout the day and prefer to be high pretty much all the time. I've known people who smoke it occasionally but when they do, get very "zoned out". Is that abuse? For me, it's hard to understand why anybody enjoys getting that high but I know there are people who consider alcohol poison and I cannot imagine a good meal without a glass of wine. Regardless, we waste way too much money in this country arresting and prosecuting people for non-violent drug offences. It's a huge waste of resources and, it ruins people's lives. The government has no business regulating what people consume. Put the money into drug treatment for those that do abuse it. The war on drugs was lost before it began.
While I'm glad you can see the logic in decriminalizing, I just have to say that your experiences don't necessarily apply to everyone. I'm the exact opposite of you, when it comes to alcohol vs cannabis! I could smoke an entire joint to my head, and have the noticeable effects wear off within an hour or so... but if I drink even ONE glass of wine it makes me giggle like a schoolgirl, and 2+ shots of hard liquor will have me praying to the porcelain gods all night. So we all have different body chemistry, and different tolerances for every substance. For someone who uses regularly, especially when it's partially for medical purposes, the high isn't really that intense or long-lasting.
To make it simple, the difference between "use" and "abuse" IMO is whether it negatively affects the rest of your life. For example, have is it ever caused you (hypothetical you) to lose a job, home, friends/family, etc; or have you had major health consequences because of it, but continued to use anyway? If the answer is yes to any of the above, then you might be an abuser. If the answers are all no, you can call yourself a responsible USER. That's my take on it, at least.
I personally think that people who have families and choose to do dangerous activities such as flying their own planes are morons.
When they eventually crash that plane and die I don't want to take care of their families.
Maybe we should outlaw personal ownership of aircraft?
In the same breath, outlaw cars since more people die in car crashes than plane crashes.
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