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Old 04-05-2014, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Eventually all that garbage you are ingesting will catch up.

You have the arrogance of youth.
Ummm... how young do you think I am? I'm knocking on 40's door already, so while I don't qualify as OLD yet, I am certainly not a kid.

And as I said, in my case it doesn't matter anyway. I don't want to go into specifics, but there is pretty much a ZERO chance anyone (government or individuals) will ever have to pay for my medical care. So if I do end up destroying my body, which might happen if I don't quit the cigarettes soon, I promise you & "society" will never have to bear the burden.
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:37 PM
 
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In the same breath, outlaw cars since more people die in car crashes than plane crashes.
No, just personal aircraft.
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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Intellectual flaws?

From someone who likes to get stoned?

I don't walk into traffic because I am not bombed on some junk.

You seem fascinated by me. This is the voice who doesn't need some crap to achieve some mental stimulation or to escape from reality.

Only stoners do that.

Means they are deluding themselves.
I don't smoke weed.

While there are many complex issues facing us as a society, this just isn't one of them; I don't have the energy or desire to go round-and-round with a grown adult about cannabis use. I will simply suggest you Google these issues.

If, after doing this, you cannot figure out why reasonable, moral, intellectually grounded people would smoke a harmless plant in order to temporarily experience the world from a different, pleasurable state of consciousness- a state of consciousness characterized by some of the most brilliant minds in the history of human civilization as worth pursuing, fascinating and even important- then there is no use trying to break it down further for you.

You won't understand. You can't understand. And if you could, you wouldn't admit to yourself that you were wrong.

You'll hide this intellectual insecurity by taking refuge in some delusion about "druggies" needing to "escape" and so on.

I used to work where this mindset was a prerequisite every day. I've seen it countless times.
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Oh, and T-310: Can you show us the evidence supporting long-term negative health consequences of cannabis? From a reliable, non-biased source please... and keep in mind, there are many (increasingly popular) ways to ingest THC without smoking it.
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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In the same breath, outlaw cars since more people die in car crashes than plane crashes.
That makes more sense than outlawing cannabis, since the total death toll for cannabis (alone) = ZERO.

By your logic, we should say that anyone who drives a car is a moron... seeing as car accidents are among the leading causes of death & injury in this country, especially for younger people.
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:54 PM
 
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That makes more sense than outlawing cannabis, since the total death toll for cannabis (alone) = ZERO.

By your logic, we should say that anyone who drives a car is a moron... seeing as car accidents are among the leading causes of death & injury in this country, especially for younger people.
It isn't zero. Some fool got stoned and took a swan dive off of a balcony and went splat all over the ground.
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:55 PM
 
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No, just personal aircraft.
Good luck with that. Dope stands more a of a chance to become illegal again than a personal form of transportation.
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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It isn't zero. Some fool got stoned and took a swan dive off of a balcony and went splat all over the ground.
I guess you missed where I put (alone) in parenthesis... the cannabis alone didn't kill them, and chances are VERY good they were on something else too. Can you show us the story, along with reports on their toxicology findings? And how about their mental health history?
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Old 04-05-2014, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Oh, and T-310: Can you show us the evidence supporting long-term negative health consequences of cannabis? From a reliable, non-biased source please... and keep in mind, there are many (increasingly popular) ways to ingest THC without smoking it.
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I guess you missed where I put (alone) in parenthesis... the cannabis alone didn't kill them, and chances are VERY good they were on something else too. Can you show us the story, along with reports on their toxicology findings? And how about their mental health history?
Should we take bets on whether or not T-310 will ever (legitimately) answer these questions? I'll put $20 on no.
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:47 AM
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Location: Georgia
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Anyone who voluntarily ingests a foreign substance to alter their state of mind is a moron.
83% of U.S. Adults Drink Coffee

Majority in U.S. Drink Alcohol, Averaging Four Drinks a Week

Isn't there a special word describing people who think that they're the only rational person in the world and everyone else is a 'moron'?

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Should we take bets on whether or not T-310 will ever (legitimately) answer these questions? I'll put $20 on no.
The question is why would someone who thinks everyone else in the entire world is a 'moron' bother having any discussions with anyone.
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