Defense of marijuana substance abuse (American, America, legal, alcohol)
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How do people like you manage to creep into adulthood without accidentally walking into traffic etc?
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Ad hom is all I can do here. I apologize to the board, and I'm grateful that people exist whom are patient enough to actually walk people like this through their intellectual flaws.
Hahaha amen! I don't know how people give him the time of day.
Don't like being around drunks so I don't go to parties. Damn cigarette smoke or dope smoke. Human debris go to bars.
Oh really now? I've worked in the bar industry for many years as a DJ, in addition to my 40 hour a week job. I've seen and met people from all walks of life. Some good, some bad. Is there some excess that goes on in bars? Of course. But you're painting with a broad brush here, and judging a lot of folks who like to go somewhere after work to be social, and have a drink or two.
I have found that people will bend over backwards to defend substance abuse if the drug being abused is marijuana. Alcohol, tobacco, 'harder drugs', prescription drugs: There seems to be plenty of social stigma attached to abusing those drugs (particularly in certain contexts, such as drinking and driving, or cigarette smoking indoors). However, the response to heavy weed use often boils down to "well, alcohol is bad", while ignoring the fact that someone is a abusing a drug.
Have others found this to be true?
If so, what do you think the reason(s) for this is/are?
Substance use or abuse is the right of the individual. The government has no right whatsoever to tell any sovereign person what they may or may not do with regards to their own body.
To argue this point would be to admit that the government holds ownership over your person and being your owner has the power to tell you what you may and may not do to your body.
That being said, I find it curious why people would choose to use marijuana given its effects. I mean, the average American is pretty damn stupid to begin with, and getting high shaves at least 50 or so IQ points off people who cannot really afford to lose any to begin with.
Then again, substitute "alcohol" in your statement...
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Originally Posted by jimhcom
That being said, I find it curious why people would choose to use marijuana given its effects. I mean, the average American is pretty damn stupid to begin with, and getting high shaves at least 50 or so IQ points off people who cannot really afford to lose any to begin with.
I find it curious why people would choose to use alcohol given its effects. I mean, the average American is pretty damn stupid to begin with, and getting drunk shaves at least 50 or so IQ points off people who cannot really afford to lose any to begin with.
There I fixed it for you.
As long as it is legal where you are, cannabis is the better choice.
Oh really now? I've worked in the bar industry for many years as a DJ, in addition to my 40 hour a week job. I've seen and met people from all walks of life. Some good, some bad. Is there some excess that goes on in bars? Of course. But you're painting with a broad brush here, and judging a lot of folks who like to go somewhere after work to be social, and have a drink or two.
T-310 is what happens when the only information they get is from some DARE program or Reefer Madness movies.
T-310 is what happens when the only information they get is from some DARE program or Reefer Madness movies.
Funny you mention that. My son had a DARE program at school that he had to complete. Guess what they were hammering on? Cigarettes and alcohol, which are 2 legal substances that can be purchased if the proper age requirement is met. Sure I'm OK with them educating about the potential dangers of those 2 substances as well, but they said nothing about illegal drugs, or the problem with abuse of other legal drugs. Not to mention... you know how they spin it, and nothing about moderation is ever mentioned. It's all bad, all the time.
I have found that people will bend over backwards to defend substance abuse if the drug being abused is marijuana. Alcohol, tobacco, 'harder drugs', prescription drugs: There seems to be plenty of social stigma attached to abusing those drugs (particularly in certain contexts, such as drinking and driving, or cigarette smoking indoors). However, the response to heavy weed use often boils down to "well, alcohol is bad", while ignoring the fact that someone is a abusing a drug.
Have others found this to be true?
If so, what do you think the reason(s) for this is/are?
I have not found this to be true. I don't know anybody who defends "substance abuse". To me, it does not matter what the substance is, I don't support abuse.
Meanwhile, the government should not tell me what or how much I can eat, drink or smoke. Those are my decisions.
Funny you mention that. My son had a DARE program at school that he had to complete. Guess what they were hammering on? Cigarettes and alcohol, which are 2 legal substances that can be purchased if the proper age requirement is met. Sure I'm OK with them educating about the potential dangers of those 2 substances as well, but they said nothing about illegal drugs, or the problem with abuse of other legal drugs. Not to mention... you know how they spin it, and nothing about moderation is ever mentioned. It's all bad, all the time.
And that's been the history of our education system and government. They consistently exaggerate and lie about substance use and abuse because the Nanny State does not think adults can make their own decisions. So they lose credibility. Kids know the schools try to scare them into not doing drugs. That only works on some kids.
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Then again, substitute "alcohol" in your statement...
It's all bad, all the time.
