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Old 03-27-2014, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No it won't. The requirements to qualify will be adjusted so they still get the government handouts.
At the Fed level it starts at 133% of FPL and goes up from there for various programs.
I don't think there are any that go by FPL anymore.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:31 PM
 
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Something else will have to be used for that 2007 inflation because the lat time the min wage changed was in 2009

July 24, 2009 to be exact.

And the one before that was July 24, 2008.
Considering we had deflation in 2009 I don't think you need to be worried. We also had job losses, but neither of those were related to the minimum wage, but rather a liquidity crisis.
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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At the Fed level it starts at 133% of FPL and goes up from there for various programs.
I don't think there are any that go by FPL anymore.
There aren't.

You have 1,539 separately functioning economies in the united States.

The true poverty level for a single person ranges from as low as $4,100 annually to as high as (if I remember right) $34,600 annually.

If you average all 1,539 economies together --- and that excludes Alaska and Hawaii --- it averages out to $11,670 for a single person.

The monies for those programs used to be doled out as block grants for counties. That changed after some high profile news stories across the US. For example, to qualify for Food Stamps in Campbell County, Kentucky, family income could not exceed $10,900, while in neighboring Boone County, Kentucky, families with incomes in excess of $32,000 were getting Food Stamps.

Why?

That's how the Liberals set it up.

Each county got a block grant from the USDA, and the name of the game is spend it, or lose it.

A populous county, or a county with an high number of low income residents would create stiff competition for Food Stamps, and that lowered the minimum income. For counties that were sparsely populated, or which had high affluence, they damn near had to go door-to-door and give the Food Stamps.

That changed during the Bush Administration.

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Originally Posted by SourD View Post
No it won't. The requirements to qualify will be adjusted so they still get the government handouts.
Correct.

Same old tired nonsense we've heard for 40 years, "Raise the minimum wage, and fewer people will be on welfare." Except that every time they raise minimum wage, they lower the bar.

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So increasing the minimum wage in Connecticut isn't a big deal. Finally someone gets it.
These employers get it, too...too bad you don't....

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New Survey of Employers Shows 38% of Those Who Pay Minimum Wage will Lay Off Workers if Wage is Hiked

Survey Reveals Impact of Raising Minimum Wage to $10.10

OKLAHOMA CITY, March 19, 2014 — Express Employment Professionals, the nation’s largest privately held staffing firm, today released the results of a survey asking employers about the impact a minimum wage hike will have on their businesses.


If the minimum wage were raised to $10.10 an hour, as President Obama has proposed, 38 percent of employers who currently pay employees minimum wage say that they would have to let some employees go to cover the cost. Among the same group, 54 percent say they would reduce hiring, and 65 percent say they would raise prices on their goods and services. (See Figure 1.)
Express Employment Professionals

Laughing at the superior intellect...


Mircea
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:24 AM
 
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They aren't supposed to. And no one should expect a business to pay that person more just because they have a family. Should they pay single people less because they don't need it as much?
Well then the masterminds in government should write new laws demanding those people do get paid a living wage!!! I'd say $20/hr should do it for now.
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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That is awesome, hopefully more states will follow. I imagine Washington and Oregon will be the next states to do something like this.
I wonder how both of Oregon's businesses would feel
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I wonder how both of Oregon's businesses would feel
Has there been mass layoffs since raising minimum wage in January for both states?
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Has there been mass layoffs since raising minimum wage in January for both states?
You're not going to see "mass layoffs" at min wage jobs.

It's one/two/three employees let go. They'll schedule 3 closers instead of 4. That's what you'll see if you look hard enough.

Mass layoffs are for the big multinationals that let go of thousands at a time.
FF places are franchised and don't even employ "masses" to fire
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Has there been mass layoffs since raising minimum wage in January for both states?
That one flew right over your head.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That one flew right over your head.
No, I got your little joke as to say there are only two businesses in Oregon and Washington, I just didn't think it was funny.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You're not going to see "mass layoffs" at min wage jobs.

It's one/two/three employees let go. They'll schedule 3 closers instead of 4. That's what you'll see if you look hard enough.

Mass layoffs are for the big multinationals that let go of thousands at a time.
FF places are franchised and don't even employ "masses" to fire
Yet unemployment in both states continue to drop. They have proven that raising the minimum wage by small amounts has little to no effect on the economy, but is good for those that are making minimum wage.
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