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Old 03-28-2014, 06:18 AM
 
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As has been stated several times, the ACA is simply the first step towards where we need to go. I certainly do not feel nor have stated it is "wonderful"...
So Obama did things half ass backwards..

I agree
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Old 03-28-2014, 06:28 AM
 
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None of it matters! Show me where in the Constitution, our LAW, does it say the government can force me to purchase anything! That is the only question that matters!
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Old 03-28-2014, 06:32 AM
 
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Since you won't write down the health taxes the lower middle class (those making 20K in Germany) up to 80K (USD) pay. I will write it down. Anyone making more than $80K can opt out and get private insurance. Let me know if any Democrat wants to tell their voting base they will pay these type of taxes to fund a single payer system. That will also include those getting rid of Tricare. People on tricare pay a ridiculously low (less than $500 a year in premiums) for their care.

Statutory sickness funds are financed predominantly through payroll taxes which have been legally fixed at 15.5 per cent of gross wages (an increase from 14.9 per cent in 2010).28 The insured are expected to pay 8.2 per cent of their income, whilst the remaining 7.3 per cent is paid by employers.

So you think the "working poor" want to pay 8% of their income to fund a single payer system.

Under the ACA, those making around 20K may be only paying about 5% total with subsidies and even deductible assistance because they fall in the 200% poverty mark. Under German or Switerzland system they will end up paying MORE.
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Old 03-28-2014, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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None of it matters! Show me where in the Constitution, our LAW, does it say the government can force me to purchase anything! That is the only question that matters!
16th Amendment ...
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Old 03-28-2014, 06:39 AM
 
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According to Obama/Pelosi/Reid back in 2009/2010. I swore they told the American public the PPACA was NOT a tax.

So what you are admitting is Obama/Pelosi/Reid lied?

Seems like people who favor the ACA want to turn their cheek the other way and think the Democrats just told a white lie?
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Old 03-28-2014, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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The quarter ends Monday and the big public insurance companies will prepare their reports. They typically report paid enrollment. We'll know soon enough the real numbers.
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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Wait..they extended the deadline because they said they are having a "surge" of applications and can't keep up.
a million and a half hits to the website on March 24 would be indeed be a surge... so besides your dunce cap, where is the point?
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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a million and a half hits to the website on March 24 would be indeed be a surge... so besides your dunce cap, where is the point?
LOL..yeah I believe everything that comes out of the WH press releases these days :roll eyes:


It's all "Don't worry..be happy".

Did you forget that the original deadline was Dec 23 2013 ?
They also had a big "surge" then and had to extend.

The gullible keep believing.....
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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LOL..yeah I believe everything that comes out of the WH press releases these days :roll eyes:


It's all "Don't worry..be happy".

Did you forget that the original deadline was Dec 23 2013 ?
They also had a big "surge" then and had to extend.

The gullible keep believing.....
Why do you hate that people are getting HC Ins coverage?
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Why do you hate that people are getting HC Ins coverage?
That's your best defense of this ?

Let's see what happens come 4/15 ...another "surge" ?

Yeah FB....there's a "war on the uninsured" now
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