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I said that Government shouldn't be forcing the taxpayers to 'subsidize' (pay for) others.
We/I had Gold Plated coverage and could pick and choose different plans that suited our needs.
(None of this was 'subsidized' (paid for) by taxpayers outside of the company)
The entire plan was payed for by the company.
It is not surprising that most of you lefties have never heard of 'options' or 'different plans' today!
You have either not had an education that would allow for a career with great benefit choices or .. you have spent your lives with your hands out .. demanding that others pay your way!
Btw: If I needed to, I could pay for any of my health care costs ... with cash
(That is the outcome of having an education and successful career)
Ooooh, somebody's angwy!
It seems you have no idea how insurance works.
Insurance's middle name is 'subsidy' and always has been.
For instance, I have been paying property insurance for my house for many years. I have never made a claim. However, I am sure that some or all of the premiums I have paid over the years have 'subsidized' someone else, who's property was flooded or burned to the ground. If I drop my current homeowner's policy and choose a different insurance company, do you think the first company will give me my money back (since I didn't use any)?
BTW, after reading your post, I'm not sure about your education; did you get over the internet?
Love the 'gold-plated' line...haha Laugh of the day!
I could have also been hit by a meteor .. (oh the pain of it all)!
(meteor coverage should be mandated)
Just a guess?
(A darn good one I believe)
You have some trouble with comprehension?
(That's trouble with reading and understanding to you lefties)
This whole topic was about what Everyone's insurance has to include (Birth Control) under a force of government mandate!!
This may come as a surprise .. At one time, this was a free country where an individual had the 'Right' to pick what kind of coverage he chose.
If he had no coverage, there was no forced mandate for anyone to take care of him.
(unless they were in a program where they took payment from the feds like Medicaid or were a participant in EMTALA (look it up) and which only applies to participating hospitals.)
Even this did not allow anyone to assume that they didn't have a responsibility to pay their bill.
Here is some interesting reading for you clowns who believe the Obama's give a d@mn about your health care:
As for your remarks on men benefiting from a woman's birth control .. No response to idiot statements are the best responses.
Having an accident is as likely as being struck by a meteor? What an ignorant statement.
Can I assume you don't carry house insurance?....after all, what are the chances of your house being struck by a meteor?
Good luck suing someone with no assets to recover medical costs. I wonder why the rest of us end up subsidizing the uninsured when a lawsuit could suffice?
And this statement:
Quote:
As for your remarks on men benefiting from a woman's birth control .. No
response to idiot statements are the best responses.
Everyone here sees it for what it is......a cop out..... because you can't explain away the FACT that men benefit from women being on birth control.
That is, unless you are a man who has the mindset that an unintended pregnancy and the resulting child is a woman's problem alone.
Insurance's middle name is 'subsidy' and always has been.
For instance, I have been paying property insurance for my house for many years. I have never made a claim. However, I am sure that some or all of the premiums I have paid over the years have 'subsidized' someone else, who's property was flooded or burned to the ground. If I drop my current homeowner's policy and choose a different insurance company, do you think the first company will give me my money back (since I didn't use any)?
BTW, after reading your post, I'm not sure about your education; did you get over the internet?
Love the 'gold-plated' line...haha Laugh of the day!
Getting kind of old in trying to explain to folks like you the difference between Government Forced insurance and an Individuals freedom to choose insurance!
Your own words give you away .. "If I drop .. and change .."
You will eventually be Forced onto some type of Government 'subsidized' insurance!
(Let me know when the feds force you to join a homeowners insurance plan of 'their' choosing.)
When you choose an insurance plan, home or otherwise, you choose to join a pool of like minded people.
So this would be a 'type' of subsidized insurance but the difference is .. You had a choice!
(That is the way it 'used' to work on health care)
These like minded people have chosen to pay for the plan .. not forced.
My education came from two years at the UofM (miami) and then at the Burnside-Ott Aviation Training Center in Opa-Locka, Florida.
I had my private license and minimum jet time at the age of 20 with the tutoring and help of a friend and Eastern Airline captain .. who owned his own lear btw!
Your laugh of the day shows that you don't get out very often?
Yes, Gold plated is what we at Delta use to call our insurance coverage.
Getting kind of old in trying to explain to folks like you the difference between Government Forced insurance and an Individuals freedom to choose insurance!
Your own words give you away .. "If I drop .. and change .."
You will eventually be Forced onto some type of Government 'subsidized' insurance!
(Let me know when the feds force you to join a homeowners insurance plan of 'their' choosing.)
When you choose an insurance plan, home or otherwise, you choose to join a pool of like minded people.
So this would be a 'type' of subsidized insurance but the difference is .. You had a choice!
(That is the way it 'used' to work on health care)
These like minded people have chosen to pay for the plan .. not forced.
My education came from two years at the UofM (miami) and then at the Burnside-Ott Aviation Training Center in Opa-Locka, Florida.
I had my private license and minimum jet time at the age of 20 with the tutoring and help of a friend and Eastern Airline captain .. who owned his own lear btw!
Your laugh of the day shows that you don't get out very often?
Yes, Gold plated is what we at Delta use to call our insurance coverage.
I've given you a synopsis of my education .. you?
Well, colour me impressed!
No, wait....that was a pigment of my imagination.
Having an accident is as likely as being struck by a meteor? What an ignorant statement.
Can I assume you don't carry house insurance?....after all, what are the chances of your house being struck by a meteor?
Good luck suing someone with no assets to recover medical costs. I wonder why the rest of us end up subsidizing the uninsured when a lawsuit could suffice?
And this statement:
Everyone here sees it for what it is......a cop out..... because you can't explain away the FACT that men benefit from women being on birth control.
That is, unless you are a man who has the mindset that an unintended pregnancy and the resulting child is a woman's problem alone.
WTH are you ranting about?
Immoral men Do in fact benefit from immoral women!
Go away .. you seem to have a low opinion of all women!
Health insurance is an instrument to manage the risk of unexpected illness or injury.
Socialized medicine is an instrument to spread the cost of an individuals health care across society.
Being fertile is not an injury or illness, where as being impotent is an injury or illness.
That's why insurance would pay for viagra but not contraception for either men or women.
But we no longer have health insurance. The health insurance companies are now instruments of socialized medicine, who's motives isn't to hedge against insurable risk but instead to spread the cost of treatment across society. Pre-existing conditions coverage is another example of how we have switched from an insurance based system to a socialized medicine system.
That being the case, we should simply accept that fact and try to make it a GOOD socialized medicine system, rather than what we are left with after the ACA. If American's want socialized medicine, and it appears they do even if they don't want to admit it, we should try to do it right.
Instead, with the ACA we have all the bureaucracy of a socialized system, but we've kept the insurance companies in the loop for really no reason but to ensure we have the greed of the capitalist system.
What is it that insurance companies provide that the government couldn't handle itself? If their whole purpose is no longer actuarial but instead to spread the cost across society we could go single payer and have more efficiency.
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