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Yet it makes a lot of sense to make sure every operable car is registered, and to vigorously enforce accountability for the use of that car to its registered owner, until that owner reports the car stolen (at which time it becomes the police's responsibility to investigate what happened to that car, etc.).
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Could those of you supporting such laws, please tell me what kind of background check, or mental health check, or gun-free-zone would have prevented these guns from now being on the street and in the hands of criminals?
I don't know if this is possible but could the pawn shop lock an essential piece of the gun in a separate location?
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There was an attempted robbery of a gun store in St. Louis that was foiled because the store owner locked up all the firearms in a huge safe. Having guns legal (I am a 2nd Amendment supporter) requires reasonable and sound measures in safeguarding the firearms. If we don't, then the right becomes a liability to a free society. The background check for criminal activity and mental health is a reasonable measure. I don't want a person with mental illness behind the wheel of a vehicle, flying my plane, manning the controls of a train; nor do I want a person with mental illness carrying a gun. We can't control these things if done illegally, but that is no excuse to keep it legal.
Yet it makes a lot of sense to make sure every operable car is registered, and to vigorously enforce accountability for the use of that car to its registered owner, until that owner reports the car stolen (at which time it becomes the police's responsibility to investigate what happened to that car, etc.).
Please enlighten me, how a registry, which is a database of names, addresses, and serial #'s, prevents anyone from committing a crime?
We have both. And part of the morality problem is clearly evident in the elevation of petty priorities, like the desire to have lots of guns, anonymously, over the means to assert accountability for harm that results from lax controls society places on those who have the means to harm others catastrophically from a distance.
No its morality, we have had for more ways to buy guns and for less crime.
Before 1968, you could buy firearms from catalogs and have them sent to your via the mail, how many mass shootings did we have then? What about Gang Violence? in the middle to late 1960`s?
Before 1934 You have have a Thompson, BAR, or a Maxim Gun fully automatic machine guns from catalogs, How many schools shootings did we have? And don't say "Prohibition" was to blame when ever you have the government outlaw a product, good, or service people will fill that demand, and without the ability protect their profits and property in the courts, they must use force...Which outside of Prohibition and a few bank robbers their was very little crime...
The 2nd and 4th Amendments are not to blame..
This idea that valuing liberty and life and the most effective means to protect is to blame is a joke and bad one at that.
Yet it makes a lot of sense to make sure every operable car is registered, and to vigorously enforce accountability for the use of that car to its registered owner, until that owner reports the car stolen (at which time it becomes the police's responsibility to investigate what happened to that car, etc.).
Myth: Guns should be registered and licensed like
cars.
You do not need a license to buy a car. You can buy as many as you want and
drive them all you like on your own property without a license.
Cars are registered because they are (a) sources of tax revenue, (b) objects of fraud
in some transactions, and (c) significant theft targets. Thus we ask the government to
track them.
There is no constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear automobiles, and
thus they are subject to greater regulation than guns.
There are more guns in the U.S. than cars (228,000,000 guns and 207,754,000
automobiles). Yet you are 31 times more likely to be accidentally killed by a car than a gun according to the National Safety Council2 ... despite cars having been registered
and licensed for almost 100 years.
The argument about guns is completely idiotic. You can make a gun in your garage with some very basic metal machining equipment. And in America, it is perfectly legal to build your own gun, which you don't even need to register.
[quote=gunlover;34163884]Sorry for not trading liberty for the myth of security.
But then again background checks of any kind would not have done a damn thing to stop this..[/QUOTE]
No of course not because they broke in. But what about someone like you or me even. What if you have a history of instability and mental illness and we have no idea. So we should just let you have a gun?
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