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People seem to forget how medicare was viewed when it came out. Guess what you have morons screaming for the gov't to not touch their medicare while not realizing it is a socialist gov't run program and that the Republicans are the ones wanting to kill medicare.
Have it your way then and run Obamacare like Medicare: make people pay premiums for decades and only let them access health care benefits when they're age 65 or older.
True, approval is not as high as the White House would like. But it's got enough support now that it 's going to be very hard to repeal it as the Rs would like to do.
Doesn't look like majority support to me.
For: 41% Against: 51.9%
The last 7 presidents have been elected by a smaller margin.
This all makes clear why the avaricious right-wing was so hot to block ACA in the first place: They knew it would raise the average standard of care for the most vulnerable in society, and therefore be superior by comparison to anything their greedy hearts would have preferred to be the case, including what was the status quo. "I am alive today because of ACA," is going to trump, "I can't pick my favorite doctor on Obamacare," in the hearts and minds of every reasonable person.
Yes but there are victims of Obamacare like poor pghquest who has his premiums driven up by 40% and his deductible jacked up to $12,750. And he has only until Jan 1, 2014 to see if the government sees him any mercy or if he can find another option.
How can you be so callous as to ignore his plight when you consider that he is but just one of millions who are suffering the ill effects of this dastardly law.
"I am alive today because of ACA," is going to trump, "I can't pick my favorite doctor on Obamacare," in the hearts and minds of every reasonable person.
Yes but there are victims of Obamacare like poor pghquest who has his premiums driven up by 40% and his deductible jacked up to $12,750.
So you too place one person's money over the basic needs of others. Thanks for making your priorities clear.
Beyond that, don't be so quick to believe any personal claims made online. The reason why this thread exists is because of the inability of the right-wing to present a compelling case, specifically along moral lines, i.e., that the kind of thing pghquest claims actually results in deaths while ACA will be able to present examples where doctors can attest to how the level of coverage and resources their patients had available before ACA would have led to that patient's death, while under ACA they're able to afford to survive, and cite cases where poor people died who would perhaps have survived if ACA had been in force earlier. That money versus life dichotomy will always come down against the avaricious right-wing.
So your silly whining at the end is easily dismissed as you allowing yourself to be duped by an unproved claim, about something that may or may not even happen. Let pghquest present that scenario publicly, sitting next to someone who can present the pro-ACA scenario whereby their life is preserved instead of sacrificed, and see who's perspective gains reasonable concern on facts and merits rather than claims and innuendo. Only blind obsequiousness to the lords and masters of the right-wing would draw the conclusion you imply would be drawn.
LOL. That didn't go too well. I think GOP is making a big mistake assuming everyone hates ACA. According to the polls more people support it than oppose it, and don't forget that many people who oppose it, do so because they wanted single payer system, and GOP is not going to help them with getting that.
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A first-time plurality of 49 percent of Americans support Obamacare. While 48 percent still state opposition, the new poll marks the first time that more
favored rather than opposed ACA.
The survey also shows significant improvement from Nov. 2013, when the program’s registration site was still undergoing technical difficulties and
shortcomings, leading to disapproval of 57 percent.
LOL. That didn't go too well. I think GOP is making a big mistake assuming everyone hates ACA. According to the polls more people support it than opposes it
Completely false, as already noted:
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Doesn't look like majority support to me.
For: 41% Against: 51.9%
The last 7 presidents have been elected by a smaller margin.
True, approval is not as high as the White House would like. But it's got enough support now that it 's going to be very hard to repeal it as the Rs would like to do. And if the implementation continues to improve, those approval numbers will also.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Doesn't look like majority support to me.
For: 41% Against: 51.9%
The last 7 presidents have been elected by a smaller margin.
Which is even less than when the bill was passed into law..
LOL. That didn't go too well. I think GOP is making a big mistake assuming everyone hates ACA. According to the polls more people support it than oppose it, and don't forget that many people who oppose it, do so because they wanted single payer system, and GOP is not going to help them with getting that.
I'm waiting for you to tell me why mandates keep getting delayed if the polls are so favorable of it.
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