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Old 04-04-2014, 06:44 AM
 
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The power isnt supposed to belong to the people to govern, the power is supposed to be balanced equally, thats why the 3 branches of government, and the 3 levels, i.e. federal, state, and individual.

Thats also why the Constitution was written to limit the federal government
Says the guys who talk about "freedom" and "liberty".
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:45 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Kind of a theoretical question that must be asked in lieu of the Supreme Court's decision earlier this week. If the rich have so much money to give that they needed the high court to allow them to give even more money to political campaigns, they should be able to afford to pay higher taxes, right?

I say the government starts to treat everyone equally, instead of trying their damnedest to make us all equally poor.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:46 AM
 
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Not as much as you'd often think.

Still, can any of you actually answer the question in my OP?
Don't you mean as much as you think they should?

I'll answer your question - I think they should be able to spend their money as they see fit, without the government stealing it just because they are successful.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:46 AM
 
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Says the guys who talk about "freedom" and "liberty".
Your response makes no sense again.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:46 AM
 
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Don't you mean as much as you think they should?

I'll answer your question - I think they should be able to spend their money as they see fit, without the government stealing it just because they are successful.
i.e. If you're rich, you should be able to buy as many politicians as you like.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:47 AM
 
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Very true. Maybe the tax brackets need to be expanded upward.

Or maybe it's time to start taxing political donations. I think dollar for dollar taxation would be a good start.
Which would make SURE that only the wealthy donate.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:47 AM
 
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Your response makes no sense again.
Repealing the 17th Amendment is a completely un-American, anti-democratic, and pro-corporatist idea that has no foundation in the principles of freedom and liberty.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:49 AM
 
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Don't you mean as much as you think they should?

I'll answer your question - I think they should be able to spend their money as they see fit, without the government stealing it just because they are successful.
So do I.

That is why I spend mine rather than giving it to the government to spend.

IMO...we are taxed on what we keep...not what we make.

So, I buy what I want with my money.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Kind of a theoretical question that must be asked in lieu of the Supreme Court's decision earlier this week. If the rich have so much money to give that they needed the high court to allow them to give even more money to political campaigns, they should be able to afford to pay higher taxes, right?

Why should they? People do not earn money to fund the government. They should be able to spend their money any way they want on whatever they want. Keep your greedy hands off my money.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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They still pay more in taxes..

1/2 the country pays zero..

Your answer, lets make those who pay the most, pay even more..

Yes, its as stupid as it sounds..
No, only those that ignore history are stupid.

We had a very prosperous country when tax-rates on upper incomes were higher. Since then, the rich got richer and everyone else has lost ground or is stagnant.

American has historically been a nation that pioneered very high taxes on the rich to foster the American egalitarian ideal and went along with fear of creating a hereditary aristocracy.

Conservatives, with their modern notion that redistribution and “penalizing success” is un-American is completely at odds with our country’s actual history. During the Progressive Era, it was commonplace and widely accepted to support high taxes on the rich specifically in order to keep the rich from getting richer.

High taxes on the wealthy coupled with redistribution are very much American ideals.
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