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Old 04-04-2014, 06:51 AM
 
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If Obamacare fails, can the President just sign an executive order thus kicking all corporate entities out of healthcare and essentially taking their business over? Take all the billions upon billions in profits they glean from our health and use that to keep costs down and do more research into real ways to help people?

I know it is a harsh measure, but maybe for the future it is the right thing to do.

IMO, companies like Phizer should be booted from the industry. They and their shareholders. There are plenty of other ways to make money in America, our health should not be one of them.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:53 AM
 
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no.. what will happen is slowly they will erode as the federal government picks up more patients, and the large ones, will partner with the government like they already do..

We'll see fascism at an all time level..
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Legally? I doubt it .

Practically? Nope.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:55 AM
 
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If Obamacare fails, can the President just sign an executive order thus kicking all corporate entities out of healthcare and essentially taking their business over? Take all the billions upon billions in profits they glean from our health and use that to keep costs down and do more research into real ways to help people?

I know it is a harsh measure, but maybe for the future it is the right thing to do.

IMO, companies like Phizer should be booted from the industry. They and their shareholders. There are plenty of other ways to make money in America, our health should not be one of them.

Who will make the medicines?

Who will make the medical equipment?

Who Will make the vaccines?

Who will develop new medicines and equipment?

What happens to those unemployed by "nationalizing" the industry?

Do the investors (the public) just lose thier invested money? (many retirment plans are invested in the healthcare industry).

What happens to the land upon which hospitals, medical equipment mfgs, and the drug companies sit?

Who pays the healthcare workers?

Who pays for the overhead of practices and hospitals?
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, but I doubt ACA will fail.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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uh no. This isn't Venezuela.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:56 AM
 
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The President could not, but congress could. They nationalized airline security when they created the Department of Homeland Security in 2002. There is precedent.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The President could not, but congress could. They nationalized airline security when they created the Department of Homeland Security in 2002. There is precedent.
That is what happens when a few people decide to ram planes into buildings, clearly private security measures didn't work to well.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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That is what happens when a few people decide to ram planes into buildings, clearly private security measures didn't work to well.
There are some problems that the free market cannot solve.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:03 AM
 
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If Obamacare fails, can the President just sign an executive order thus kicking all corporate entities out of healthcare and essentially taking their business over? Take all the billions upon billions in profits they glean from our health and use that to keep costs down and do more research into real ways to help people? .
No. The ACA is doing with the health insurance industry what the government did long ago for the banking industry.
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