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Old 04-16-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You are shooting at the wrong messenger - if you look closely, you will see the article was translated from a piece in the Swiss newspaper of record, Neue Zürcher Zeitun.
No, that messenger deserve to be drawn and quartered, never mind shot...

Check out this page, and tell me that they are neutral. Press Releases | The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF)

 
Old 04-16-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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gretsky how much does the Heritage Foundation pay you every time you post these garbage articles?
 
Old 04-16-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: OKC
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Both sides are funded by parties that have financial motives in the outcome of the research. There is nothing new about that.
 
Old 04-16-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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No, that messenger deserve to be drawn and quartered, never mind shot...

Check out this page, and tell me that they are neutral. Press Releases | The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF)
That still does not negate the fact that a well respected scientist, in a well respected newspaper, is pointing out the fact the CAGW emperor (climate models) has no clothes.
 
Old 04-16-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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Both sides are funded by parties that have financial motives in the outcome of the research. There is nothing new about that.
Except one is attempting to profit by saving the planet and the other by destroying it.

Hardly equivalent, regardless of motive.
 
Old 04-16-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Weird how the published opinion of the vast majority of climatologists means nothing, but some nobody quoted by a think-tank holds the coin of the realm. That's not science.
 
Old 04-16-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Weird how the published opinion of the vast majority of climatologists means nothing, but some nobody quoted by a think-tank holds the coin of the realm. That's not science.
If you read the other climate change thread you'd know consensus is meaningless.
 
Old 04-16-2014, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Meaningless to denialists, yes. To a denialist, anything that parrots Republican garbage is science and science that doesn't parrot Republican garbage is a hoax.
 
Old 04-16-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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I have never claimed to be unbiased regarding this subject anymore than you are, but that doesn't matter....It is the science that needs to be free of bias.
Yet YOUR scientists dismiss OUR scientists all the time. And folks like you go even further, denigrating our side's scientists, sometimes pretty viciously.

Science is an ongoing process of discovery of how the physical universe works. There are ongoing arguments about quantum theory, string theory, and global warming theory. It is YOUR side that has declared the AGW argument is over, and furthermore, your side has changed the definition of climate change, equating it with global warming, even though "change" means hotter AND colder, aka "different".
 
Old 04-16-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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Weird how the published opinion of the vast majority of climatologists means nothing, but some nobody quoted by a think-tank holds the coin of the realm. That's not science.
Climatology is a pseudo science that produces conclusions that cannot be verified through the scientific method.
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