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Old 04-06-2014, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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So then you understand why its an issue...good, we are making progress.
The guns aren't the issue however....
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:36 PM
 
Location: DFW
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So then you understand why its an issue...good, we are making progress.
You want to ban Inner city Blacks from owning guns? Or just the ones that commit crimes ?
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:41 PM
 
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The guns aren't the issue however....
I never said they were, nor did the doctor. Gun violence is the issue.
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I never said they were, nor did the doctor. Gun violence is the issue.
No gun violence is not the issue. Inner city youth are the issue.

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Old 04-06-2014, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Yeah, I'm very familiar with the Korean deal. It's been going on for about 3 years now. I'll respectfully correct one aspect of your post, though. He didn't ban the import of any imported firearms. He just hasn't authorized the import license to be issued. He didn't issue an executive order as Bush 1 did and impacted a lot of importers who were trading with China, Romania, great German products. President Obama just hasn't chosen to act on import license and authorize the import. Maybe he thinks he can get some thing in return....I don't know.
But to think he's holding up a couple containers of M1 carbines as a form of gun control is ridiculous as the percentage of black rifles is so much greater than this half load and those are the one's that get up liberal's noses and what they always target.

Too bad, because word in the industry say's these are some of the finest M1s and Garands ever to hit the market since the early days of the CMP program. When they finally do come in, I've already got my wish list in to some old friends, still in the business.

Seriously though, is that all you Got?
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Presidents don't introduce bills but he sure tried to get Joe Biden out there promoting "Gun Control".

He would if he could.
Probably true.
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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No gun violence is not the issue. Inner city youth are the issue.
Racist.... It's too bad the discussion about guns and gun violence can't be discussed for fear of "offending" someone. I just looked at the murder statistics in Tennessee and 62% of all murders in Tennessee last year were committed by "African Americans". Is that indicative of a gun problem or a cultural problem? 17% of our population is committing 62% of the murders.

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Old 04-06-2014, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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It's hard to argue against the suggestion that something related to thirty thousand US deaths a year is a public health issue. This would be no different than arguing that automobile accident deaths (a relatively equivalent figure) are a public health issue.

Yet, it's difficult to envision The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers lobbying against someone who made that suggestion. Anything related to thousands of deaths a year is clearly a public health issue. I'd be far more concerned by a Surgeon General who didn't make that connection, than by one who did.

The Second Amendment, how it's interpreted, and what--if any--limitations should be placed upon it; are entirely different conversations, which are completely unrelated to the function of The Surgeon General. At best, he would function no differently than a prominent private citizen in regards to presenting his personal views on the subject.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Racist.... It's too bad the discussion about guns and gun violence can't be discussed for fear of "offending" someone. I just looked at the murder statistics in Tennessee and 62% of all murders in Tennessee last year were committed by "African Americans". Is that indicative of a gun problem or a cultural problem? 17% of our population is committing 62% of the murders.
Sadly the numbers will be the same in virtually any major city in the country. The black community has a problem and all the laws, legislation and police in the world can't correct it. Only the black community can.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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So then you understand why its an issue...good, we are making progress.
Yeah failed "Great Society" programs that have left the inner cites(control by demonrats) over taxes, over regulated hell holes, with failed schools, and force blacks and Hispanics into a life or poverty and dependence with crime providing a chance at a future...


You those issues?
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