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He's the one who originally claimed Iraq had WMDs. If anyone lied about it, it was Clinton, not Bush. Bush's mistake was in believing anything Clinton said.
Your evidence for believing this silliness would be?
It is well documented that Bush's gang was looking to tie Iraq to 9/11 while lower Manhattan was still a cloud of dust. Clinton's WMD crap was helpful to their own crap, but it was not the cause of it.
Clinton and Bush are evil, worthless pigs, but for motives specific to each.
So when Truman gave the order to nuke Japan to win and end the WAR it was a Democrat thing?
Oh, I see. You're attempting to defend the Republicans by changing the subject. That won't work. Want to complain about Democrats dropping nuclear weapons 70 years ago, start another thread.
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After 9/11 you rather do nothing and stick your head in the sand.
I didn't say anything of the sort. Straw man. Garbage argument. Right-wing torture cowards are no better at arguing in favour of torture than they were ten years ago. Fail.
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Nobody is asking you to fight this war
The United States wanted all the help it could get. People like you make me wish we'd just let your planes crash. See how Republican policies alienate your allies?
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you rather complain from your computer about the tactics our government have always use to defend this country from our enemies since this Republic was founded.
Gosh, I'm so sorry you disapprove. If I knew you'd be so upset by my opposition to torture, I'd have said so sooner.
Your evidence for believing this silliness would be?
Lots of Bush apologists like to quote Democrats speaking on the matter five years previously or Democrats repeating what they were told by the Bush Administration as if that somehow makes Bush's 2002 statements true.
Bush/Cheney better be careful if they leave the US!
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Former US President George W Bush, his Vice-President Dick Cheney and six other members of his administration have been found guilty of war crimes by a tribunal in Malaysia.
Bush, Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and five of their legal advisers were tried in their absence and convicted on Saturday.
The world knew about the Bush/Cheney torture program long before the report was released yesterday.
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In what is the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere in the world, the former US President and seven key members of his administration were today (Friday) found guilty of war crimes.
Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia.
The trial held in Kuala Lumpur heard harrowing witness accounts from victims of torture who suffered at the hands of US soldiers and contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan.
They included testimony from British man Moazzam Begg, an ex-Guantanamo detainee and Iraqi woman Jameelah Abbas Hameedi who was tortured in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison.
At the end of the week-long hearing, the five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered guilty verdicts against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their key legal advisors who were all convicted as war criminals for torture and cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment.
Witnesses testify about the torture they endured under Bush/Cheney:
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According to the prosecution, the testimony of all the witnesses shows a sustained perpetration of brutal, barbaric, cruel and dehumanizing course of conduct against them. These acts of crimes were applied cumulatively to inflict the worst possible pain and suffering.
Testimony showed that Abbas Abid, a 48-year-old chief engineer in the Science and Technology Ministry had his fingernails removed by pliers. Ali Shalal was attached with bare electrical wires and electrocuted and hung from the wall. Moazzam Begg was beaten and put in solitary confinement. Jameelah was almost nude and humiliated, used as a human shield whilst being transported by helicopter. All these witnesses have residual injuries till today.
Largely, it was, although there was not much in the way of Republican dissent from that decision; which is inexcusable, considering the Republicans had the decency and foresight to oppose entering the war.
I denounce anyone who supports the CIA torturing prisoners, starting wars for no reason, or incinerating population centers. It so happens that nowadays, most people of that description flock to the GOP, although the Clinton-Lieberman Democratic wing is a close second.
we are at war. Obviously you don't have the stomach to fight this kind of war. Unless they bomb your city and kill your family you will never get off your high moral horse.
We didn't start this war unless you are in the blame the U.S.A. crowd for the world's problems.
What evidence do you have that Bush actually believed any of this spew, or that this belief, if he had it, was decisive in his decision to invade Iraq?
They gave a contract for $81M to two psychologist's that had no experience in interrogation techniques, was there anyone that was not a contractor.
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