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Old 12-11-2014, 08:14 AM
 
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only if you WANT to call waterboarding torture

its called getting information from someone who doesn't want to give up the information

why do liberals think these extremist will talk if you only say please

we need to use all methods (whether you think its nice or not)... or we will face more 9/11's
Waterboarding is torture. Anyone with a clue knows that is a fact. Just because you don't want to acknowledge the point, doesn't make it any less real.
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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Quit blaming America!! Hypocrite. Drones are a part of our arsenal, like it or not. Whether you want to admit it or not, there actually is a difference between killing armed enemy on the battlefield, and torturing prisoners in a prison. It has been explained enough times on this thread already.

better lean how to read. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the democrats.


Drones not only kill the "armed" enemy but any civilians around them. Which is casualties of war. Drones are ok but water boarding leaders of AL QAEDA to get intel out of these animals and keeping them alive is not.


Let the CIA do its job.
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Waterboarding is torture. Anyone with a clue knows that is a fact. Just because you don't want to acknowledge the point, doesn't make it any less real.
I know SOME PEOPLE define it as torture

then again according to the law ANY THREAT is considered torture


only the liberals nut jobs think they can coddle the terrorists and get answers


sorry , but not everyone is nice out there...those POS terrorists deserve death for what they did...3000 civilians and emergency responders died on 9/11 because of extremist islamics....we need the intell to provent it....not to coddle them
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:21 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Drones not only kill the "armed" enemy but any civilians around them. Which is casualties of war. Drones are ok but water boarding leaders of AL QAEDA to get intel out of these animals and keeping them alive is not.
Obama's drones have killed more unarmed innocents than any supposed torture has. Dems are extreme hypocrites, trying to claim the moral high road, when it's Obama committing the greater carnage between the two.
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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I know SOME PEOPLE define it as torture

then again according to the law ANY THREAT is considered torture


only the liberals nut jobs think they can coddle the terrorists and get answers


sorry , but not everyone is nice out there...those POS terrorists deserve death for what they did...3000 civilians and emergency responders died on 9/11 because of extremist islamics....we need the intell to provent it....not to coddle them
No one is talking about "coddling" terrorists. Why don't you put together an intelligent thought rather than trying to anally feed everyone some empty platitudes?
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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The blame America crowd is in the democrat party. The funny part is they are making a big drama about water boarding but don't say anything about Obama's drone program.....lol
What the hell is the difference between collateral damage from a drone and collateral damage from a Tomahawk missile or just an old-fashioned bomb? Is there some aesthetic difference the victims should care about?

Whether I like it, whether you like it, conducting lawful warfare lawfully is--well, lawful. Torturing disarmed enemies is not. If you don't like that, try and change the laws instead of changing the subject.
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:28 AM
 
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What the hell is the difference between collateral damage from a drone and collateral damage from a Tomahawk missile or just an old-fashioned bomb? Is there some aesthetic difference the victims should care about?

Whether I like it, whether you like it, conducting lawful warfare lawfully is--well, lawful. Torturing disarmed enemies is not. If you don't like that, try and change the laws instead of changing the subject.
Maybe they can talk about Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster again. That's just as relevant.

The neo-cons posting in this thread are really spinning their wheels to justify their illegal pro-torture stance. I'm sure many of them would love to volunteer to conduct the anal feedings and waterboarding though. The thought of being part of those probably gives them a pseudo-sexual thrill.
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:29 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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Obama's reasons for not closing GITMO, please? Why is it suddenly okay now to release the very info he felt was too sensitive back in 2009, when he failed to do what he promised and close GITMO?
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:29 AM
 
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Obama's drones have killed more unarmed innocents than any supposed torture has. Dems are extreme hypocrites, trying to claim the moral high road, when it's Obama committing the greater carnage between the two.


of course they are fools and hypocrites and playing politics with 40 million of tax payers money.......water boarding and other tactics is used by the Russian, Chinese, Korean intel against their enemies to get intel out.

the CIA has used these tactics in WW 2, Korean War, Vietnam and the Cold War. The KGB have used the same tactics.


But democrats get on their high moral horse and act like this is new to them.....pleaseeeeee!
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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No one is talking about "coddling" terrorists. Why don't you put together an intelligent thought rather than trying to anally feed everyone some empty platitudes?
Were you expecting genius from a real-life Archie Bunker?
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