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Old 04-08-2014, 07:43 PM
 
Location: El Sereno, Los Angeles, CA
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Stateless, classless, capital assets held in common, just like any other communist society.

 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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So what do you call America today? So far as I can tell, millions of Americans receive money and goods that they did not work to secure. They merely signed the right forms and answered the questions appropriately, and viola, free crap. Free for them anyways, not free for the millions of working Americans who paid taxes.

And don't forget about America's many subsidized or propped up industries. All the "too big to fails", no matter how poorly managed or unprofitable. I know many business owners who would love to have the government on their team, except, the government doesn't give a crap if they prosper or fail. Just keep paying those taxes... That's all the government wants from them. A sucker is born everyday, and so, another entrepreneur will gladly take their place.

Communism is here, in varying doses, depending on where you look. The benefactor may be the farmer, who can count on solid demand for his corn, thanks to welfare consumers. Just the same, Frito lay sells an awful lot of salty products to people who would otherwise be relegated to a diet of bread, rice, water and very occasional meat. The horror... People not being able to consume unhealthy products

Which leads us directly to the the medical industry and the health insurance giants. Since Americans have such disgusting (subsidized) diets, hospitals will never have a shortage of potential patients. And since Americans have been forced into buying health insurance, mandated by the communist in chief, the health insurance companies will enjoy even more demand for their product. What happens when demand for a product increases??? So to does the price! And just like always, if you cannot afford it, one of those producers will gladly work twice as hard to pay your way. Prosperity!

Yup, and with the Soviet Union toppled, we don't have to feel all awkward and stuff about stealing pages from their playbook. Hey, it worked pretty well over there, right?
 
Old 04-08-2014, 07:51 PM
 
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They would close this site quickly. Lerner would be the norm inn targeting groups.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 08:05 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Some people think its already in the process of becoming one. Whether it is or isn't, what would it be like if it became a communist country?
You only need to visit San Francisco to see a purely socialized city in action. Any sexual deviance is just fine, but Happy Meals... no Happy Meals for you! The smell of baking bread is illegal. Have you ever read the list of extreme groups based in the Golden City? Do a search for Line of March Publications and you'll find they want to restore the USSR. The Gorbachev Foundation is based there. The Freedom Socialist Party is based there. The Gay Parade is an exhibition of exhibitionists gone wild.

Look at the whack-a-mole politicians that city has spawned (Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein)

It's a crazy place, and Genesis to the failure that is the Socialist Experiment; California.

They proved they could take the wealthiest state in the union, and turn it into a slum, with more than 20% of Californians on some form of welfare. Now it's even more with low incomers being FORCED on to Medicaid. The welfare hourly conversion rate here is nearly $13 hr. Hawaii is more than $18hr.

No wonder they want to raise minimum wage above $15hr! Welfare pays that in at least 4 states, and every state beats the Fed minimum wage.

Yes, we're turning into a totalitarian/socialist/communist/Marxist state, incrementally.

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Old 04-08-2014, 08:05 PM
 
Location: San Francisco born/raised - Las Vegas
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OP, you would get your very own self driving car.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 08:07 PM
 
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Some people think its already in the process of becoming one. Whether it is or isn't, what would it be like if it became a communist country?
true communism? it doesn't exist.
ALL communism is really fascism gg.

there are also no true capitalism.

if done right and if people were honest communism might work
but some people are evil beings so it cannot work

unless you can purge the evil that almost always remains at the top in any type of society.

best we can do to combat evil is to not them have absolute power
 
Old 04-08-2014, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by andywire View Post
So what do you call America today? So far as I can tell, millions of Americans receive money and goods that they did not work to secure. They merely signed the right forms and answered the questions appropriately, and viola, free crap. Free for them anyways, not free for the millions of working Americans who paid taxes.

And don't forget about America's many subsidized or propped up industries. All the "too big to fails", no matter how poorly managed or unprofitable. I know many business owners who would love to have the government on their team, except, the government doesn't give a crap if they prosper or fail. Just keep paying those taxes... That's all the government wants from them. A sucker is born everyday, and so, another entrepreneur will gladly take their place.

Communism is here, in varying doses, depending on where you look. The benefactor may be the farmer, who can count on solid demand for his corn, thanks to welfare consumers. Just the same, Frito lay sells an awful lot of salty products to people who would otherwise be relegated to a diet of bread, rice, water and very occasional meat. The horror... People not being able to consume unhealthy products

Which leads us directly to the the medical industry and the health insurance giants. Since Americans have such disgusting (subsidized) diets, hospitals will never have a shortage of potential patients. And since Americans have been forced into buying health insurance, mandated by the communist in chief, the health insurance companies will enjoy even more demand for their product. What happens when demand for a product increases??? So to does the price! And just like always, if you cannot afford it, one of those producers will gladly work twice as hard to pay your way. Prosperity!

Yup, and with the Soviet Union toppled, we don't have to feel all awkward and stuff about stealing pages from their playbook. Hey, it worked pretty well over there, right?
Based on this post, I don't think you know what the definition of communism is. There are a number of things you stated that contradict communism.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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OP, you would get your very own self driving car.
In Communist America, car drives you!
 
Old 04-08-2014, 08:23 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Based on this post, I don't think you know what the definition of communism is. There are a number of things you stated that contradict communism.
I think his point was that the 1%ers make out quite well in a Communist state. There is always a group of elites at the top who live quite well on the backs of the serf class. Communism/Socialism offers shared misery for the masses, while the men at the top do quite well. Throughout history these men have shown an inclination to massacre millions to hold on to their power.

The fact that people who quote/carry the Constitution are considered lunatics is quite a tell on the Marxist scale.
 
Old 04-08-2014, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think his point was that the 1%ers make out quite well in a Communist state. There is always a group of elites at the top who live quite well on the backs of the serf class. Communism/Socialism offers shared misery for the masses, while the men at the top do quite well. Throughout history these men have shown an inclination to massacre millions to hold on to their power.
So does capitalism, there are always winners and losers in a capitalist system.
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