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Old 04-09-2014, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by EmeraldCityWanderer View Post
I know Ron Paul's followers are perfectly happy if people who cannot afford medical care just drop dead, but the rest of us have morals. We work to help our country be great, which helps the American people be great.
Actually, it's Ron Paul that has morals and people like you do not. It is not moral to take somebody's possessions.

And you obviously don't understand that government is not required to take care of the disadvantaged.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:00 AM
 
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You obviously don't understand monopolies. Almost all monopolies are created by or sustained by government.

Here is a good read;

http://mises.org/journals/rae/pdf/rae9_2_3.pdf
A Keynesian study that's pro-Keynesian on a Keynesian website? *gasp*


Have you ever heard of anti-trust laws? Monopolies are bad for consumers, workers, and capitalism as a whole, they exist in lieu of effective federal regulation, not because of them.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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And oh by the way, roads don't all have to be built by the government. That attitude reflects a serious problem with our society who has been trained to think government has to provide everything. Open your mind a little. There are lots of other solutions.
Those public roads or toll rights could be sold to the highest bidder who could charge whatever they want.

This is common stuff in some nations. If you want to get from point A to B in an hour, you pay a serious toll and maybe some pay-offs along the way. Otherwise, you are free to take a back dirt roads and with luck, arrive at your destination 8 hours later. If it rains, you are SOL.

I don't understand the eagerness by some to embrace third world conditions.
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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A Keynesian study that's pro-Keynesian on a Keynesian website? *gasp*
You have it backwards. DiLorenzo is a Libertarian and writes for the Mises Institute. They are Austrian School Economists. That's totally different and usually diametrically opposed to Keynesians.


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Have you ever heard of anti-trust laws? Monopolies are bad for consumers, workers, and capitalism as a whole, they exist in lieu of effective federal regulation, not because of them.
I didn't say Monopolies are good. I said they are either created by or sustained by government.

This is from my link;

The theory of natural monopoly is an economic fiction. No such thing
as a "natural" monopoly has ever existed. The history of the so-called
public utility concept is that the late-nineteenth- and early-twentieth-
century "utilities" competed vigorously and, like all other industries, they
did not like competition. They first secured government-sanctioned mo-
nopolies, and then, with the help of a few influential economists, con-
structed an ex post rationalization for their monopoly power.
This has to be one of the greatest corporate public relations coups
of all time. "By a soothing process of rationalization," wrote Horace M.
Gray more than 50 years ago, "men are able to oppose monopolies in
general but to approve certain types of monopolies. .
. Since these mo-
nopolies were 'natural' and since nature is beneficent, it followed that
they were 'good' monopolies. . .Government was therefore justified in
establishing 'good' monopolies."
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Those public roads or toll rights could be sold to the highest bidder who could charge whatever they want.

This is common stuff in some nations. If you want to get from point A to B in an hour, you pay a serious toll and maybe some pay-offs along the way. Otherwise, you are free to take a back dirt roads and with luck, arrive at your destination 8 hours later. If it rains, you are SOL.

I don't understand the eagerness by some to embrace third world conditions.
So tell me which third world countries have a large number of privately owned toll roads?

"third world conditions" would be bad roads regardless of who owns them and how they are paid for. I've been to several third world countries and never saw toll roads, public or private.
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