20 Injured at PA School - Stabbings, not gun wounds (FBI, healthcare, weapons)

[jimkyler]

Originally Posted by gmagoo

And the gun/criminal lobby didn`t use Sandy Hook to sell more guns?

Actually the democrats sold more guns by trying to ban many of them. What do you expect to happen?

[wjtwet]

I am sure the school was a knife free zone

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by freightshaker

A gun is no more lethal than a knife.

Why does common sense (let alone the objective facts) make that difficult to believe?

In 2011 (the last year for whcih complete figures are available) there were 8,583 homicides by firearm in this country, vs. 1,694 homicides by knife (or other cutting instrument). At the same time, of all aggravated assaults committed in the US, 137,857 of them were committed with firearms, and 127,509 were committed with knives or cutting instruments. The math is simple.

One out of every 17.1 firearms assaults ended up killing the victim.

One out of every 76.3 knife assaults ended up killing the victim.

Based on those numbers, it appears that guns are actually more than four times more lethal than knives.

So... armed with that information, how many of those 20 wounded do you speculate would have died had a gun been involved rather than a knife?

Originally Posted by freightshaker

In fact it can be far less lethal and do less internal damage.

Anything "can" be anything. We are asking about general rules, not special cases.

Originally Posted by freightshaker

The question is not answerable.

Any question is answerable. Some answers are merely less speculative than others.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by Ecstatic Magnet

Doesn't change anything.

Agreed, the culprit remains the same, crazy people harming others. So all we need to do is create laws making this type of conduct illegal.

[jimkyler]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Based on those numbers, it appears that guns are actually about five times more lethal than knives.

So... armed with that information, how many of those 20 wounded do you speculate would have died had a gun been involved rather than a knife?

5 times 0 is still 0. That's math proving you wrong.

[gmagoo]

Originally Posted by jimkyler

Actually the democrats sold more guns by trying to ban many of them. What do you expect to happen?

But was that the goal of the democrats to get more guns into the hands of more gun fetishists? I think not?

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by jimkyler

5 times 0 is still 0. That's math proving you wrong.

Oh? What does that "prove wrong?" Exactly?

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by Grsz11

In the 1920s. Lets try to focus on modern, relevant times. If they had had today's guns, he could have used that instead.

They had excellent semi-autos in the 1920s. You could buy a Thompson submachine gun by mail order without a background check. There were 100 round magazines available for the Thompson then.

[jimkyler]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

They had excellent semi-autos in the 1920s. You could buy a Thompson submachine gun by mail order. without a background check.

The Thompson is capable of full auto actually

[Ecstatic Magnet]

Originally Posted by jimkyler

Actually the democrats sold more guns by trying to ban many of them. What do you expect to happen?

So the democrats are trying to ban items they profit on?

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