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View Poll Results: What Tax System Do You Want?
Current System 10 12.66%
Fair Tax 14 17.72%
Flat Tax 41 51.90%
Other 13 16.46%
Welcome To Costco, I Love You. 5 6.33%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-15-2014, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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What Tax System Do You Want?

The current tax system

A Flat Tax


A Fair Tax
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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Our current, progressive tax system, except eliminate the need to file taxes every year and adopt PAYE instead
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Get rid of all the taxes(including the fascist IRS) and have a national sales tax. That way ALL money gets tax, including all the money floating around on the black market(i.e. drugs, gambling, prostitution, etc.) no loop holes, no deductions.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:19 PM
 
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I love how people think a flat tax is a great idea. Turns out current total tax rate by quintile is pretty flat actually. But they don't mean that...they mean a flat tax on Federal, all the other taxes and fees are just fine. Just fine. no need to change those. Nope! gas tax, registration, fees etc etc etc.

This propaganda brought to you by the .01%
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:19 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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the flat tax has been proven to work in many, many, countries. There should be no tax for anyone earning less than $25k, 15% up to $1M, and 26% for the uber wealthy. There should be two deductions - mortgage interest and donations

We could all do our taxes on a post card, and the government would be forced to function within a finite budget.

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I love how people think a flat tax is a great idea. Turns out current total tax rate by quintile is pretty flat actually. But they don't mean that...they mean a flat tax on Federal, all the other taxes and fees are just fine. Just fine. no need to change those. Nope! gas tax, registration, fees etc etc etc.

This propaganda brought to you by the .01%
We back a flat tax that wipes out ALL other federal taxes. All loopholes gone.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:21 PM
 
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Get rid of all the taxes(including the fascist IRS) and have a national sales tax. That way ALL money gets tax, including all the money floating around on the black market(i.e. drugs, gambling, prostitution, etc.) no loop holes, no deductions.
Soooo...question.

Does this include stocks?
Rents?
Buying a house?
stock compensations? At what valuation?

If your answer is "yes it does" I have some respect for what you're saying. If your answer is "of course not" then you're just looking at more of the same with exceptions and loopholes slowly moving in.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Soooo...question.

Does this include stocks?
Rents?
Buying a house?
stock compensations? At what valuation?

If your answer is "yes it does" I have some respect for what you're saying. If your answer is "of course not" then you're just looking at more of the same with exceptions and loopholes slowly moving in.
I don't know about rent, but I wouldn't have a problem applying a sales tax to stocks and buying houses and land.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:26 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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I don't know about rent, but I wouldn't have a problem applying a sales tax to stocks and buying houses and land.
That would only lead to abuse. The idea is to make taxes easy and remove the ability for politicians to manipulate them.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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the flat tax has been proven to work in many, many, countries. There should be no tax for anyone earning less than $25k, 15% up to $1M, and 26% for the uber wealthy. There should be two deductions - mortgage interest and donations

We could all do our taxes on a post card, and the government would be forced to function within a finite budget.



We back a flat tax that wipes out ALL other federal taxes. All loopholes gone.
LOL. Sooo a system similiar to what we have now, but with no deducts?

Oddly enough....im ok with this.

Peg the numbers to inflation though. And remove the mortgage interest and donations. Seriously, keep it simple.

Income:
subtract 25K If 0 or less done.
if less then 1 million, multiply by 15%-thats your tax. Done
subtract 1 million
Multiply balance by .26%, add 150K, thats your tax: Done

Everyone fills out a post card.

Sounds awesome huh?

Except.....I can see loopholes. OMG huge one.

Company provides a company home to live in. Chef, and expense account-with a 2K per diem.

no income needed. Live like a king. YAY!
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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I don't know about rent, but I wouldn't have a problem applying a sales tax to stocks and buying houses and land.
Sorry but rent shouldn't be excluded. Seriously, once you begin to make exceptions it just opens the door.
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