Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Gasoline adjusted for inflation is pretty much the same price it's been for the last 50 years. The fact that a minimum wage employee cannot afford a tank of gas is a separate issue.
Mostly because the minimum wage hasn't been paced with inflation.
Don't tell that to the right wingers though, its probably socialism.
Cars aren't for everyone. If you ditch your car, does $5 / gallon gas matter to you?
Glad I stopped driving to work...
You should think more liberally and consider that not everyone in the US has the option of public transportation or are of an age or health status that preclude them walking miles to work...or work in a climate where walking is problematic in feet of snow and sub-zero temps.
While $5/gal doesn't hurt me much it's crippling to a lot of my friends that only make 30-40k a year.
I'm glad your profession and location allow you to not drive. When I lived in Chicago I had no car for years and even in the burbs I only drove maybe once. You can't do that in less urban areas. Stop being so narrow minded as to the situation facing many other americans.
Its not pettiness to point out you've been lied to and played for a sucker by people you support.
You can make all of the excuses you want but that just goes to show how Democrats have no morals or standards.
I guess if you live in a worldview where you have "team" and that team reflects upon you. Do you really think Republicans thought Obama said "you didn't build that" to business people regarding their business?
Of course not. They knew their electorate wouldn't think deeply enough to look at the quote in context and see he just made the innocuous point that they didn't build the roads and other infrastructure they depend on, so they pulled it out and made it the theme of their convention. Listen to any convention, to any political rally, and you'll hear ample examples of group X having no morals or standards.
Who did you vote for in recent elections? I can easily find examples of them lying. So, whomever you support has no morals or standards.
You have to look at the bigger picture. Who really cares about a cheap political barb? More important to look at how much more efficiently our military has operated under Obama or how people formerly denied medical care because they lacked money can now have their lives saved. Or how the barriers to homosexual rights are coming down. Or how low income children are provided basic sustenance to have a chance at surviving.
Both sides are corrupt in their process so you have to look at the results to judge morality and see which side supports the higher moral outcomes.
Oh, my child. I guess if you live in a worldview where you have "team" and that team reflects upon you. Do you really think Republicans thought Obama really said "you didn't build that" to business people?
Of course not. They knew their electorate wouldn't think deeply enough to look at the quote in context, so they pulled it out and made it the theme of their convention. Listen to any convention, to any political rally, and you'll hear ample examples of X group having no morals or standards.
Who did you vote for in recent elections? I can easily find examples of them lying. So, whomever you support has no morals or standards.
You have to look at the bigger picture. Who really cares about a cheap political barb? More important to look at how much more efficiently our military has operated under Obama or how people formerly denied medical care because they lacked money can now have their lives saved. Or how the barriers to homosexual rights are coming down. Or how low income children are provided basic sustenance to have a chance at surviving.
Both sides are corrupt in their process so you have to look at the results to judge morality and see which side supports the higher moral outcomes.
Dont change the subject into now its ok to be lied to.
We Republicans laughed our ass off when Obama blamed Bush for the price of gasoline. I did the same when Romney blamed Obama, just like I havent blamed him.
Its left wing KOOKS who flip flopped from Bush to blame to, now its ok Obama lied...
This partisan bickering over the rising price of gasoline has been quite entertaining.
A sitting President can no more substantially affect the price of gasoline than he can affect where the sun rises everyday. The gasoline equation has too many too many variables.
That's what many of us said back in 2008 around here. It's still true.
However, you can't try to claim the high-ground politically and then face no repercussion when it blows up in your face. No different than the "family values" candidates getting busted with hookers and drugs etc.
Mostly because the minimum wage hasn't been paced with inflation.
Don't tell that to the right wingers though, its probably socialism.
I think RW and LW with a lick of common sense would all agree that this society on the move is the main problem. Humans for thousands of years were born, lived their lives and died within a few miles. Within the last 120 years there has been a transportation and a population explosion where now, people who can barely pay their basic bills get on airplanes and fly to the other side of the country. People who can barely afford the gas are driving 40 to 50 miles one way to work.
Some people are just not that smart common sense wise. The price of the gas is the only thing that at least keeps their feet on the ground. I say raise it up until people start making changes.
If GW is real, liberals should be for higher and higher gas prices.
Remember the left wing kooks going gaga when Obama released some fuel from the national reserves, claiming it was going to drop the price of gasoline by leaps and bounds?
Dont change the subject into now its ok to be lied to.
We Republicans laughed our ass off when Obama blamed Bush for the price of gasoline. I did the same when Romney blamed Obama, just like I havent blamed him.
Its left wing KOOKS who flip flopped from Bush to blame to, now its ok Obama lied...
Thats hell of a standard you got there..
Um... your simplistic assessment of my political views is wanting.
It's not okay to be lied to, but every politician does it because uninformed voters respond positively to those lies, so we get what we want and it's part of the system and we all recognize it as such, liberal and conservative.
We Independents laughed our ass off when Obama blamed Bush for the price of gasoline. i did the same when Romney blamed Obama, just like I haven't blamed him.
I think left wing kooks are just as ignorant (or perhaps just as power-at-any-cost hungry and hypocritical) as right wing kooks. Remember when both Obama and Hillary both claimed McCain wanted 100 more years of war in Iraq? Of course he didn't want that. His statement was taken out of context for cheap political points.
I just don't know who you'd vote by your standard for because they all lie. Maybe it'll just take a little more seasoning on this planet for you to learn that.
Remember the left wing kooks going gaga when Obama released some fuel from the national reserves, claiming it was going to drop the price of gasoline by leaps and bounds?
I do..
hahaha...
I don't know who claimed it was going to drop prices by leaps and bounds, but in that instance releasing the reserves combined with addressing speculation (which is really what drives gas prices up) actually did positively impact gas prices at a time when they'd gotten pretty extreme, even with all the subsidies government provides for gas. I don't think the impact was dramatic, though.
....hahaha.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
