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Old 04-22-2014, 10:02 AM
 
Location: OKC
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Are you looking at this graph as if it was the actual temperature? If so then how do you interpret the current value of the graph being 0.70 Deg C listed at the tite? This is a graph of temperature change and as such the last time it was at 0 or in the negative range was clearly right about 1994.

Yes you are correct that the mean line for about 15 years of the graph would be considered fairly flat but that just means the rate of change is constant over that period, not zero. It seems like for the past 15 years the rate of change has been around a constant of 0.6 Deg C
I interpret it to mean's it is .7 degrees above the chart's beginning value, which was set at zero.

It certainty could not mean a constant change of .6 degree per year. Otherwise it would be 12 degree warming than it was 20 years ago.

In other words, the .7 degree figure is how much higher it is now than it was 3 1/2 decades ago, not that temperatures are increasing .7 degrees each year.

Thus a flat line would be "no change in absolute temp," not "no change in temperature increase."
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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The earth heats and cools periodically.

The warmers will shriek heresy at your statement.
Yep it goes against their "religion"
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:55 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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The graph you linked to doesn't appear to show any temperature rise over the past 15 years, (although I would note that it is including ocean as well as atmosphere temperatures. I wasn't following this thread closely, so perhaps you posted to prove a non-rise in temperatures?
Your inability to correctly read basic data might explain your opinion in conflict with objective reality.
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Been reading a lot of the debate here about global warming and whether or not it's man made, natural and how bad it is. I am starting to wonder and worry if it might be global cooling we need to worry about. Record snowfall, cold, in many places this winter, some places getting snow that never got snow before. What are the chances that we could be headed for new mini-ice age or maybe end to this interglaciation that we are overdue for?
The chances of global cooling are about the same as the chances of global warming and we can do nothing about either.

But if I have to choose, I'll choose warming.
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:43 PM
 
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People on this forum are astoundingly ignorant when it comes to climate change so I'd suggest you get your information elsewhere.
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Old 04-22-2014, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Fear not. There's this out today:


March was fourth hottest on record - except in the United States - CBS News

And even though the US was cooler, not all of it was. It was well above normal all winter in the SW US.
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Old 04-22-2014, 06:18 PM
 
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Fear not. There's this out today:


March was fourth hottest on record - except in the United States - CBS News

And even though the US was cooler, not all of it was. It was well above normal all winter in the SW US.

Psst, CBS, your bias is showing: Strange headline when you compare it to what NOAA really says.

State of the Climate

To be fair to CBS, this headline probably would not fit on the page:

March was fourth hottest on record - except in the United States... and Most of eastern Canada, north central Argentina, part of the central North Atlantic Ocean, and the ocean waters off the southern tip of South America
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Old 04-22-2014, 06:37 PM
 
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No.

It hasn't warmed in over 17 years.
lets vote for the global warming pundits to hold their breath to help solve the global warming problem.
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