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Old 04-23-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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I have to laugh at the conservative haters in here who claim we blame everything on "immigrants" aka illegal aliens. I am a conservative and I want the greedy, rich employers stopped from hiring them and illegal aliens deported. But the hypocritical left/liberals want them to remain here and gain amnesty instead so they can continue to compete for jobs against Americans and continue to make the rich richer off of them.

 
Old 04-23-2014, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Doesn't matter, we still have millions of Mexicans here illegally more than any other national group. The Bracero guest worker program was for agricultural workers. Only 3% of illegal aliens are picking crops and the rest are doing jobs that most Americans will do. We have 23 million Americans out of work many of them are of our blue collared workforce. We don't need foreign competition for those jobs or any other jobs for that matter. Employers are just looking to increase their profits from cheap labor not because they can't find Americans at a fair wage.
You mean like gardening and housekeeping? We could just go after the employers to solve this problem.
 
Old 04-23-2014, 04:32 PM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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You mean like gardening and housekeeping? We could just go after the employers to solve this problem.
You forgot car washes.

There will never be another civil war in this country.
Way too many sheeple here.
 
Old 04-23-2014, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Another civil war is inevitable in the US

No it isn't.

 
Old 04-23-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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Illegal aliens are working in just about every blue collared industry in this country. Construction, landscaping, etc. you name it.
 
Old 04-23-2014, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I have to laugh at the conservative haters in here who claim we blame everything on "immigrants" aka illegal aliens. I am a conservative and I want the greedy, rich employers stopped from hiring them and illegal aliens deported. But the hypocritical left/liberals want them to remain here and gain amnesty instead so they can continue to compete for jobs against Americans and continue to make the rich richer off of them.
Amen the Neo Cons who hire illegals must be punished..
 
Old 04-23-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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I never claimed to be anything but a true conservative, as opposed to the lackey corporate fake conservatives trying to sneak into the conservative tent. The sooner the republican party (of which I am not a member) kicks out the corporates, the sooner they will be able to offer a viable message.



Immigrants are one of several tools used by the corporates to bludgeon the middle class into economic subservience. From the end of WW2 through the late 1960s, the US' middle class was the envy of the world, enjoying immense purchasing power and a rising wage base/standard of living. The corporate whores running the major companies decided that they were not willing to continue to have to pay a substantial portion of their profits to their employees, so they became greedy/selfish and pressed congress to allow for large numbers of immigrants to once again be allowed into the country, starting in 1965. This is all fact, so whether you want to agree with/accept it as fact, that's up to you.

There is no rational person at this time who can claim that immigration (legal and not) and offshoring has not severely damaged the wage base in many different sectors of the economy, construction, trades, IT, law, etc.



Hatred for a federal government bought out by corporate interests, and for fellow americans who are rich but too f--king stupid to realize what Henry Ford understand a century ago; pay workers well and the economy will hum along - screw them over, and you have riots.



Stop trying to turn this into a left vs. right liberal vs. conservative argument, think for yourself and carefully read what I've written and linked to.

You are uninformed. The largest US corporations of the kind that the US government listens to doesnt have a need for undocumented workers.

So again undocumented immigrants HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH the US government only listening to business interests. They have nothing to do with stagnating wages loss of jobs overseas, and the wealthy taking more and more of everything.

The only way undocumented immigrants have anything to do with this problem is if you are a conservative filled with hatred and bigotry because conservatives always have to attack some out group.

This is how conservatives view public policy.
 
Old 04-23-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Illegal aliens are working in just about every blue collared industry in this country. Construction, landscaping, etc. you name it.
And are hard workers at construction and "landscaping" or gardening. So what other professions would you name? And how should we go after the wealthy people that employ illegals?
 
Old 04-23-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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She condemns and villifies those very people who have been out doing her regime's bidding--those who have paid the price for her and her cronies' exploits. That's priceless and a great example of how warped Ms. Napolitano and her entire regime really are.
Amen...Funny how We are the threat to this nation, not the head of the regime.
 
Old 04-23-2014, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Amen...Funny how We are the threat to this nation, not the head of the regime.
Well it does seem like you guys are the ones that keep calling for a civil war that will never happen.
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