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Yes, I am well aware of that. If you noticed I said STUDENT LOANS. The person I was responding to thinks student loans are the government giving money to universities.
Research money is extremely important for out country and the advancements we make.
Would the government provide student loans to a university that refuses to admit minorities?
Like it or not when an institution is accepting public money they become "agents" of the government.
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WOW!!!!
Universities get federal research grants all the time.
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Yes, I am well aware of that. If you noticed I said STUDENT LOANS. The person I was responding to thinks student loans are the government giving money to universities.
Research money is extremely important for out country and the advancements we make.
Really, pknopp said that. Holy moley! I want those special glasses! It must be a fun world to see.
You still haven't said if this is over any specific event or just a generalized rant that one cannot argue against because there is actually no proof that your statement has any truth to it.
"Rant"? I guess we know where you stand on protecting free speech.
Why do we allow colleges to remove the right to free speech?
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This case is not unusual. A number of colleges (and other incidents like the Bundy Cattle fiasco) have designated small, out of the way areas for free speech. This is exactly what the First Amendment protects us from. Speech is not free if you are restricted to a tiny part of a college campus.
The first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, "
And the Supreme Court has correctly ruled that the First Amendment applies to school kids. This is from Wikipedia;
"In Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969), the Supreme Court extended free speech rights to students in school. The case involved several students who were punished for wearing black armbands to protest the Vietnam War. The Court ruled that the school could not restrict symbolic speech that did not "materially and substantially" interrupt school activities. Justice Abe Fortas wrote:
First Amendment rights, applied in light of the special characteristics of the school environment, are available to teachers and students. It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate. [...] [S]chools may not be enclaves of totalitarianism. School officials do not possess absolute authority over their students. Students ... are possessed of fundamental rights which the State must respect, just as they themselves must respect their obligations to the State."
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Clearly, handing out a copy of the constitution on a college campus would not "materially and substantially interrupt school activities." And if the constitution would "materially and substantially interrupt school activities", maybe we should evaluate that school's existence.
FYI: from your own post. Colleges are not congress.
Irregardless we will note that you dodged the question. Don't call people out for things you aren't willing to defend.
I didn't dodge your question, I actually answered it. If a university was refusing minorities, they would be hit with so many lawsuits that it wouldn't matter if the US denied student loans to be used at their school.
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LOL!
Why do we allow colleges to remove the right to free speech?
