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Old 10-25-2006, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Yea, it was so sad to see him, he had movement, but couldnt remember the simplest things, like how to walk and talk in the end, or how to use the bathroom, when he couldnt remember my grandmother after 53 years, that was beyond heart breaking. People that dont personally know the disease, are easy to dismiss it.
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Rush Limpbaugh has no room to criticize anyone with a medical condition that is treated through prescription drugs.

Mr. Viagra/Oxycontin ... at least MJ Fox is getting his meds legally.

I think he's just upset that Fox has the nerve to do a political ad in Rush's homestate and has even more nerve to pronounce the state as "Missoura".
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Maine
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That pretty much sums up our government then... just one big joke.
Yup. Reminds me of something Chesterton once wrote:

"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected."


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momof2dfw- my thoughts exactly. i have a good friend who works at the mayo clinic helping to find cures to diseases. i hope we can win this fight.
I am all for research and finding cures and treatments for all diseases, but there are ethical issues to consider. The end does not justify the means, and in the case of embryonic stem cell research, there are a lot of very grave ethical issues to consider.

Fox's ad makes some very good points. But the counter-point ad (the one with Patricia Heaton) does so as well.

The fact that we are debating these issues is a good thing, and I don't want to demonize either side. We need to be discussing these things.

But Rush was still being a tool.
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Yup. Reminds me of something Chesterton once wrote:

"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected."




I am all for research and finding cures and treatments for all diseases, but there are ethical issues to consider. The end does not justify the means, and in the case of embryonic stem cell research, there are a lot of very grave ethical issues to consider.

Fox's ad makes some very good points. But the counter-point ad (the one with Patricia Heaton) does so as well.

The fact that we are debating these issues is a good thing, and I don't want to demonize either side. We need to be discussing these things.

But Rush was still being a tool.



I agree it does need to be discussed and peple will agree and disagree, having experienced the disease first had I am for the research, saving millions of lives and keeping future generations from suffering is important, keeping unused embryos frozen or letting them die, doesnt make any sense to me in light of what can be accomplished by the research. I dont think either side should be demonized, they are different points of view. Rush was a real tool!!
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Old 10-25-2006, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Regardless of how one feels about stem cell research, accusing Fox of exaggerating his symptoms is, at best ignorant, and at worst, extremely offensive. I work with senior citizens and the disabled, and Parkinsons is a terrible, terrible disease. There is no need for its symptoms to be exaggerated and the worst symptoms, the real day-to-day living issues Parkinsons causes, cannot even be shown on television.
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Old 10-25-2006, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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I once heard a tragedy defined as "two opposing parties who are both right."

I guess then that here we have a definition of a comedy --- "two opposing parties who are both wrong."

I disagree with Fox's politics on this issue, but Rush was being a bit of a tool.
Maybe if you had Parkinson's you'd feel a little more like Fox does.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:28 PM
 
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Michale J. Fox

Limbaugh, said of Michael "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease," in the commercial stem cell research.
Does Rush think before he speak?--the statement is about as low as a person can go. Rush does it all in the name of the Republican's. I would not wish this man representing me, if he has to step so low to get VOTES.
Rush Limbaugh is on those drugs <OxyContin >deteriorated the one brain he has left...

I was so upset when I read the above comments. I am new to the Forum, Ihope this is not breaking the rules. I have not read the Code of Conduct completely.

Did you listen to show? or you heard the edited version by the drive by media? He said Michael J Fox was probably off his medicine on purpose like he admitted he did in front of the Senate hearings. In his own words he said he did that to she show the effects of Parkinsons. Michael J Fox was being used by the Democrats to spread a falsehood about the Republican Senator running in MO. Michael J Fox lied by saying the Republican did not believe in stem cell research when he does. He does not want tax payers money used for embrionic research. Michael J Fox was implying this Senator was stopping a cure for Parkinsons when their is no such evidence that enbrionic stem cell research will have any effect. They have had better results using regular stems cells and this is never discussed. Their are studies going on privately now using embryos and nothing has come of it. This is the same thing John Edwards tried to pull with the Christopher Reeves issue. Vote for us and Christopher Reeves will walk. This is cruel and these people will stop at nothing to play on people's emotions. Michael J Fox put himself out there to presuade the people in Mo. and he is fair game. We all want a cure for disease who wouldn't? I'm sure everyone in both parties does. But the Dems will use anything to advance themselves even vicious lies like this. It all comes back to the abortion issue again. We must use embryo's the heck with anything else right?

Keep watching the regular media and you will keep getting edited versions of Rush, just like the Michael Moore movie cut and paste and call it the truth.

Inside Edition presented the story correctly and played exactly was Rush said and presently both sides. They are hardly a conservative show.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:31 PM
 
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It's none too surprising for Rush to insert foot. Never could stomach him

You have to get the truth out there, how else are the people in MO. going to know they are being dupped?
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:33 PM
 
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I know they have their good days when the movement isnt so pronounced and bad days where they cannot function. Mike was having a bad day.
He made sure he was having a bad day and he had a good day when we went to pick up his award 2 months ago. He must have taken his meds.
I feel bad for the guy but don't try to lie about a candidate and expect to get sympathy. He put himself out there.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:36 PM
 
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Maybe if you had Parkinson's you'd feel a little more like Fox does.

Why is it ok for Michael J Fox to lie about someone just because he has Parkinsons? Why can't he be called out? He himself said he went off his medicine at the senate hearings. Rush said he was probably off his meds to get a better point across. What is the problem here?
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