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You don't understand much about our political system, do you? Lol
Just one thing, you become subject to American laws when you are born or otherwise entered the American soil. No agreement on your part is required lol
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Originally Posted by kidkaos2
Sorry, but I'm a citizen of the United States, not a co-owner. They are not synonymous terms. There is no contract anywhere with my signature on it agreeing to be held personally responsible for even one penny of the federal government's debt. And I voted for my congressman to represent the interests of the people living in my area, not me personally, and I did not give that person power of attorney for me nor did he consult with me on any of his decisions or votes for my approval.
Well I thought this thread would be a list of Republican accomplishments, like ending Jim Crow, the interstate highway system, ending the cold war, welfare reform, etc. Not really sure what this thread is about now though.
Really?
Name ONE "right winger" who supported the end of Jim Crow!
You, like so many, confuse ideology with political party. It is true that liberal and moderate republicans joined liberal and moderate democrats to end Jim Crow. But it was conservative democrats and republicans who fought against the expansion of personal liberty.
Thus it was regarding slavery, women's suffrage, voting rights, and interracial marriage. We see the argument today regarding gay rights and gay marriage.
Conservatives, by definition practically oppose the expansion of personal liberty. Liberals seek to expand personal liberty.
Not all democrats are and were liberal, and not all republicans are and especially were conservative. Look at the slaveholder democrats of pre civil war America and the republicans of post civil war America.
The left wing has the GI bill, the new deal, social security. What about the right wing?
Social Security a good deal? You've got to be kidding.
Tell you what, give me 14.6 % of your salary and I will hold it until you are 65 with NO GUARANTEE you will get it back. And by the way, I will give you 2 % interest, maybe.
But it wasn't and isn't unanimous. The right supports them more than the left.
The then Senate Majority Leader, Tom Dashele a DEM CO-SPONSORED the bill. He could have killed the bill just as Ole harry has killed over 30 bills. The DEM MINORITY LEADER in the House ALSO co-sponsored the bill.
MOST major dem Senators voted for the bill.
It is always amazing when 1 or 2 repubs vote with the dems many of you scream, "It was passed by a bi-partisan Congress". Yet time and time again you deny just how much the dems supported the wars and it is Bush's fault alone.
Name ONE "right winger" who supported the end of Jim Crow!
You, like so many, confuse ideology with political party. It is true that liberal and moderate republicans joined liberal and moderate democrats to end Jim Crow. But it was conservative democrats and republicans who fought against the expansion of personal liberty.
Thus it was regarding slavery, women's suffrage, voting rights, and interracial marriage. We see the argument today regarding gay rights and gay marriage.
Conservatives, by definition practically oppose the expansion of personal liberty. Liberals seek to expand personal liberty.
Not all democrats are and were liberal, and not all republicans are and especially were conservative. Look at the slaveholder democrats of pre civil war America and the republicans of post civil war America.
Really? It was conservative ideology that ended Jim Crow. Less government=conservative.
You can put any spin on it that you want, it doesn't make it true.
Name ONE "right winger" who supported the end of Jim Crow!
You, like so many, confuse ideology with political party. It is true that liberal and moderate republicans joined liberal and moderate democrats to end Jim Crow. But it was conservative democrats and republicans who fought against the expansion of personal liberty.
Thus it was regarding slavery, women's suffrage, voting rights, and interracial marriage. We see the argument today regarding gay rights and gay marriage.
Conservatives, by definition practically oppose the expansion of personal liberty. Liberals seek to expand personal liberty.
Not all democrats are and were liberal, and not all republicans are and especially were conservative. Look at the slaveholder democrats of pre civil war America and the republicans of post civil war America.
Did you see me write conservative or even right winger in my response? I know the OP meant extreme right wing, which I am not so I limited my answer to Republicans because the right wing is a huge spectrum. To ignore the Republican's role in Civil Rights in this country is a revision of history that has gained popularity in recent years. And yes, Republicans at that time were also right wing. They believed in protection of rights as their primary platform and thus, if you get out of the context of thinking every single Republican is some super extreme right-winger, you could see why it made sense that the Republicans were on the side of Civil Rights. Slavery, Jim Crow laws, and women's suffrage were all about protecting the rights of the affected people. I can understand, perfectly, why Republicans supported those movements. You need to get out of the mindset of what MSNBC defines a Republican to be and actually look at the platform and the history of our party to understand what being 'right wing' and a Republican actually means.
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