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View Poll Results: Do burglars deserve death?
Yes 156 59.77%
No 105 40.23%
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Old 02-18-2015, 11:20 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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If someone breaks into you home in the middle of the night what would you do?
Call the police and find the room in the house where I can best barricade myself or if possible leave the house.
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Old 02-19-2015, 02:46 AM
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Location: Florida
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... society has decided that our personal sanctuary is sacred enough to defend with lethal force.
Indefensibly indiscriminate lethal force.

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Not rationalizations, hard, cold FACTS.
No: Rationalizations. There is an alternative - just one that would cause those who would choose to be killers feel would cramp their style. Placing convenience over other people's lives is an indefensibly immoral prioritization.

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Let's imagine you're in a situation with only two possible endings. No other choice.
When you deliberately blind yourself to the alternative within which you are qualified to make a reasonable decision about whether lethal force is necessary, it will invariably be impossible for you to recognize that your perspective suffers from the fallacy of the false dilemma. Yet one more of the rationalizations people who would be killers use to try to escape accountability for their intended actions.
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Old 02-19-2015, 02:50 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Back in time, when an individual's property rights were considered sacred, and defending them with deadly force was expected, it made sense to kill thieves and trespassers.

However, since we're under national socialism, and no one has private property rights, it is frowned upon, since it reduces the aggregate value of the herd.
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Old 02-19-2015, 04:10 AM
 
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If you shoot someone because you think they might be armed, that's one thing. If you shoot someone because irrational fear or sociopathic antipathy has driven all sense of human decency from you such that you don't care whether the person is armed, that's another thing.
Anyone that breaks into my house will be shot with a 10 gauge using buckshot. Messy but final.
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Old 02-19-2015, 04:20 AM
bUU
 
Location: Florida
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So you've basically self-identified?
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Old 02-19-2015, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Is it justifiable to kill a thief?

Burglary is a dangerous business.

Gunshot wounds are an occupational hazard.
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Old 02-19-2015, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Indefensibly indiscriminate lethal force.

No: Rationalizations. There is an alternative - just one that would cause those who would choose to be killers feel would cramp their style. Placing convenience over other people's lives is an indefensibly immoral prioritization.

When you deliberately blind yourself to the alternative within which you are qualified to make a reasonable decision about whether lethal force is necessary, it will invariably be impossible for you to recognize that your perspective suffers from the fallacy of the false dilemma. Yet one more of the rationalizations people who would be killers use to try to escape accountability for their intended actions.
What's the alternative? Call the police? I don't know where you live but here it can take hours for HPD to respond to a burglary. That's right HOURS. They just don't have the manpower at the moment. In your world/neighborhood it might be possible to reason with an intruder and get him to leave peacefully or have the police show up within minutes. In the real world it just doesn't happen that way unfortunately.

What would you do if you were home and someone started kicking in your door? I'm curious to know how you'd handle that situation.
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Call the police and find the room in the house where I can best barricade myself or if possible leave the house.
You've obviously never been faced with this situation or you'd realize the futility of your statement.
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:19 AM
 
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So you've basically self-identified?
Repeat after me; "I WAS IN GREAT FEAR OF MY LIFE".
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:22 AM
 
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If you break into my home, I will shoot to kill. I would not know what you broke in for, and I would be in fear for my life. If you don't want to take the chance of being killed, don't take other people's stuff.
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