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Old 05-08-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
IMO, this procedure should be a private matter.

Why?

If, as liberals contend, no life is taken by abortion, why not put it out there for all to see?

We all spent a week looking up Katie Couric's pooper, so what's the problem?
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:02 PM
 
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Why?

If, as liberals contend, no life is taken by abortion, why not put it out there for all to see?

We all spent a week looking up Katie Couric's pooper, so what's the problem?
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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like it or not lots of young women do the same thing. they have no steady partner and on occasion have unprotected sex. (sounds like thousands of young men) in no way is she a role model because she is a counselor. this is her life and her morality, as been said many times before don't like abortion, don't get one. simple. no one should live their life by anyone's morality and standards but their own.
What you say would be absolutely true were abortion a question of personal morals. It isn't. It is the unnecessary termination of human life. What you're saying is precisely equivalent to saying "if you don't like robbing people, then don't rob people, but nobody should have to live their life by your standards" -- ie, your argument is dumb. There are reasonable arguments for allowing abortion but "don't like it, don't get it" isn't one of them. It's a logically fallacious and intellectually dishonest argument that begs the question - its premise assumes the truth of its conclusion. The argument against abortion is that it is equivalent to murder, but your response to that argument isn't to argue that abortion isn't murder, it is to presume that abortion isn't murder and therefore conclude that people have no right to force their personal morality on others. Before you can argue whether or not people have the right to force their morality on others, you must first demonstrate that abortion is a question of personal morality, a question which you simply ignored.

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Old 05-08-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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Is your world all black and white as in everything is either "liberal" or "conservative?"

I believe in pro-choice. That does not mean I believe an abortion should be televised. I also believe in good consensual sex. That does not translate into believing this sex should be televised.

What a load of ****!

Abortion isn't sex and adults can watch all the sex they want.

Liberals don't want abortion to be seen by the public for the same reason they object to ultrasound requirements.

They don't want people to see abortion for what it really is.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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What a load of ****!

Abortion isn't sex and adults can watch all the sex they want.

Liberals don't want abortion to be seen by the public for the same reason they object to ultrasound requirements.

They don't want people to see abortion for what it really is.
No, we always thought abortion involved fairy dust and rainbows.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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No, we always thought abortion involved fairy dust and rainbows.

More dancing around the issue of taking a life.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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No, we always thought abortion involved fairy dust and rainbows.
Apparently the twit in the video does!
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:45 PM
 
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No, we always thought abortion involved fairy dust and rainbows.

I actually thought this video was very interesting. Having gone to catholic school, I was shown a video, which was basically a bucket of body parts saying "This is an aborition", and was told that a fully formed baby is vacuumed out and more or less beaten with a hammer, all at around 5 or 6 weeks gestation.

I think everyone's "problem" with this video is she doesn't seem sorry enough. People want her to feel how they think she should feel. For all we know she was very upset and had to act like that to keep from crying.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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if you are a Christian or believe in God, then you believe He is the Creator of life. No one has created a human being (not cloned) except Him. So if you believe that it is pretty difficult to treat Life so casually you would have a medical procedure on you tube. You either think the creation of life is sacred or you don't.
I am not and do not.
If you think it's so sacred, don't have an abortion, but don't tell everyone else what to do.
Furthermore, I've seen some "Christians" advocating letting welfare people starve and letting sick people without insurance die.. So much for sacred.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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if you are a Christian or believe in God, then you believe He is the Creator of life. No one has created a human being (not cloned) except Him. So if you believe that it is pretty difficult to treat Life so casually you would have a medical procedure on you tube. You either think the creation of life is sacred or you don't.
If nothing is done to remove an embryo from a fallopian tube, the tube will rupture. It cannot streatch like the uterus. That means DEAD baby, and dead WOMAN, who will bleed to death if not treated.

Take it up with God who causes these, and miscarriages, to happen.
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