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Originally Posted by Ecstatic Magnet No one is trying to take away an old lady's self defense.
Why is she being called an 'old lady'? She's the same age as that hot, gun-toting MILF, Sarah Palin, and they're both grannies.
I never heard anyone call Bible Spice an old lady.
It's easy enough to cherry pick a handful of examples to fit your meme. This particular person went with the purpose of getting the response he got. While he wasn't breaking the law, Walmart has a firearm policy dependent on the state law the store is in. They also do not allow video taping inside their stores. So it was a clash of public rights verses private rights. Walmart had every right to throw him out, and he complied. On the other hand Walmart does allow customers to enter all of their stores armed with a concealed weapon with a permit.
As I said before, if your prerogative is to rarely arm yourself that is your right. It just doesn't make much sense to apply for and get a CCP, only to rarely pack. If the time comes, God forbid, you need to be armed and you aren't...
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Originally Posted by arjay57
One of our kids closing in on the big 5-0. If Ms. Ainsworth is an old lady I'm a stegosaurus.
It hints at the average age of people in here when at 51 she is called a "little old lady" I'll take 51 again.
I don't know the intimacies of some of these statistics but if this paper is right, and I have no reason to believe it is inaccurate, in 2010 there were 230 justifiable homicides involving a gun. From 2006 to 2010, there were 1,013.
Whereas, according to this paper from the CDC, there were 62 accidental deaths of a child between the ages of 1-14 involving a firearm and 72 accidental deaths of a young person between the ages of 15-19. By accidental, I presume it's meant to be stated as accidental discharge either by "playing" with guns or something to that effect. The statistics cited do a good job of breaking down whether it was accidental, intentional, etc...
That means in 2010, there was a ratio of 1.65 justifiable homicides per accidental child death.
So, basically, it's like that old movie where the little girl says "Every time a bell rings an angel gets its wings."
Only, in this case, it's really more like "Every time Bubba kills an intruder, a child dies."
Fine. Fair enough. You don't have to like it. You've said countless times that you would rather the people who've defended themselves with guns be victims rather than have a gun to protect themselves. We get it.
So... Grandma gets shot four times and fires back but misses.
She didn't miss, she hit the thugs in the legs. Hopefully she crippled them for life.
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Only, in this case, it's really more like "Every time Bubba kills an intruder, a child dies."
So what you're really saying here, is that guns protect people just as much they harm people in the context of accidental shootings? We knew this already.
You've said countless times that you would rather the people who've defended themselves with guns be victims rather than have a gun to protect themselves. We get it.
You have repeatedly said that you are not in favor of people carrying guns in their daily lives. That means that by default, you don't think the people who've protected themselves with guns outside the home should have ever had those guns to begin with.
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