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Old 05-15-2014, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Sure. Whatever you say? How about authoritarian types who feel the need to tell others how to live because they don't approve of it, should not be able to own guns?



Generalizing again?



I support the 2nd Amendment for sure, but some people with that attitude are a hell of a lot more scarier than some run of the mill stoner. Hitler would have been proud of these people!




As someone who is pro legalization, I agree with the bolded. If you partake, do so responsibly, and don't drive while under the influence. That goes for any intoxicant.
I totally agree, but, unfortunately people do not fear the law any longer, and will drive under the influence....that is the only reason I'm against legalizing it....
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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I totally agree, but, unfortunately people do not fear the law any longer, and will drive under the influence....that is the only reason I'm against legalizing it....
That's where we go when the government and law enforcement act like they don't have to obey the law.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:48 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I totally agree, but, unfortunately people do not fear the law any longer, and will drive under the influence....that is the only reason I'm against legalizing it....

I see it this way, get caught driving stoned, the same penalties should apply as with driving drunk.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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I can't wait until this is legal and regulated sensibly.

I just sat in on a lecture a few days ago about the affects of illegal grows in the forest here. Smaller operations aren't an issue, but there are some "mega-grows" or cartel grows who are operating with complete disregard to the surrounding environment. They're killing endangered species, knocking down trees, and choking tributaries.

I don't care if someone's growing, but drying out a stream to water you grow or leaving pesticides out and killing endangered animals isn't acceptable for any agricultural operation.
Strange how no one demands anyone do anything about the illegal pot growing except to demand making pot legal.

For those that use, why worry about the environment the cartels are trashing, the inability to walk in a forest because you might get shot for just being close to illegal pot farms, just light up a joint and be happy, none of it will matter. Enjoy the toke, eat a brownie and have a glass of milk, it will all be ok.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:19 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Strange how no one demands anyone do anything about the illegal pot growing except to demand making pot legal.

For those that use, why worry about the environment the cartels are trashing, the inability to walk in a forest because you might get shot for just being close to illegal pot farms, just light up a joint and be happy, none of it will matter. Enjoy the toke, eat a brownie and have a glass of milk, it will all be ok.

That is what happens when you make something illegal. You create a black market, in which growing by means of crude methods such as you mentioned. Ending the federal ban would put a huge dent in the cartels pushing Mexican weed here, and eliminate the black market. Or have we not learned from the failures of prohibition of alcohol? Besides, everyone knows the best s*** is grown in the US and Canada due to more sophisticated methods of growing quality cannabis. Mexican weed is dirt weed anyway. At any rate, I'm sure the licensed growers for legal medical weed out in California aren't trashing the environment.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:22 AM
 
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Strange how no one demands anyone do anything about the illegal pot growing except to demand making pot legal.

For those that use, why worry about the environment the cartels are trashing, the inability to walk in a forest because you might get shot for just being close to illegal pot farms, just light up a joint and be happy, none of it will matter. Enjoy the toke, eat a brownie and have a glass of milk, it will all be ok.
If I smoked with what pot costs I have to think I would be growing my own.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:29 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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If I smoked with what pot costs I have to think I would be growing my own.

If it's legalized (I should say when, because sooner or later it's going to happen) and the option is given, I'd love to have that option of growing a few plants of my own for my own consumption.
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Old 05-15-2014, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Humboldt County, CA
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Strange how no one demands anyone do anything about the illegal pot growing except to demand making pot legal.

For those that use, why worry about the environment the cartels are trashing, the inability to walk in a forest because you might get shot for just being close to illegal pot farms, just light up a joint and be happy, none of it will matter. Enjoy the toke, eat a brownie and have a glass of milk, it will all be ok.
If you read past the first line, you will see I denounced many of those same things. I don't give two squirts about what people are growing, but it should be grown ethically (if not exactly legally, in this particular case). Legalizing it will make policing easier...imagine a Federal standard for pure, organic, sustainably grown pot? Give consumers a choice and hopefully they'll put the bad growers out of business, and at the same time go after the bad ones harshly for the terrible things they do.

Worth noting, possibly: I don't partake in the mary.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:31 PM
 
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I can't wait until this is legal and regulated sensibly.

I just sat in on a lecture a few days ago about the affects of illegal grows in the forest here. Smaller operations aren't an issue, but there are some "mega-grows" or cartel grows who are operating with complete disregard to the surrounding environment. They're killing endangered species, knocking down trees, and choking tributaries.

I don't care if someone's growing, but drying out a stream to water you grow or leaving pesticides out and killing endangered animals isn't acceptable for any agricultural operation.
The Forest Service knows this, which, leads to feds knowing. Wonder why they're willing to arrest a man for growing pot for medical purposes and allow illegals to grow for "free." This is where all the anti-pot people should put their anger, not toward a personal grower or very small time supplier for medical MJ.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:32 PM
 
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If you read past the first line, you will see I denounced many of those same things. I don't give two squirts about what people are growing, but it should be grown ethically (if not exactly legally, in this particular case). Legalizing it will make policing easier...imagine a Federal standard for pure, organic, sustainably grown pot? Give consumers a choice and hopefully they'll put the bad growers out of business, and at the same time go after the bad ones harshly for the terrible things they do.

Worth noting, possibly: I don't partake in the mary.
By your location, guess you like the area and weather Not questioning just funny with the reputation of the area, must be like a duck out of water. lol
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