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View Poll Results: Do you believe the USA is the most exceptional country in history?
YES 62 39.74%
NO 90 57.69%
Not Sure - and why? 4 2.56%
Voters: 156. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-14-2014, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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You forgot to mention the lot in life women had at the time as well.

Americans have been fighting for their freedoms since the paint dried on
The Constitution.

It's been a work in progress. Not necessary a masterpiece....
Actually, it is somewhat of a masterpiece in the fact that we have the inherent ability to fight for those freedoms without resorting to bloody revolution in order to do so.

 
Old 05-14-2014, 05:38 PM
 
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Actually, it is somewhat of a masterpiece in the fact that we have the inherent ability to fight for those freedoms without resorting to bloody revolution in order to do so.
But there was blood. Lots of it.

Guess, the USA is more like the Picture of Dorian Gray...
 
Old 05-14-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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I don't have to be escorted by a male when I leave the house. I have choices that woman in other countries only dream of, I have risen from middle class to upper middle class, and the list goes on. The U.S. isn't perfect but I don't think utopia is possible no matter what liberals think.

For the liberals who don't think the U.S. is a good place to live, have you considered moving to a country that you think is better?
I think I already live in one that's better.

There are lots of places in the US I'd like to visit; I think maybe in my dotage I might get a bike and go on a tour, I want to hike down into the Grand Canyon and maybe bits of the Appalachian Trail, I'd love to see the Air and Space museum, and I've never heard anyone say "Yeah, New York's a drag." I used to travel to the US on business from time to time, and I found my hosts every time to be as friendly as can be.

But live there? Where everything has to be hashed over fifty times because you haven't learned to be one large country instead of fifty little ones? Where, for the price of a car payment, I can buy health insurance from an outfit that has departments dedicated to seeing to it I end up either destitute or dead? Where the people who would claim to represent me spend their time thumping a bible and saying mad things and claiming they're qualified to govern a nuclear superpower? Where each election seems more dysfunctional than the last and elections are run by people with a vested interest in one party or the other's victory and I vote via Rube Goldberg machine rather than just put an X next to the right name? Where I might seriously have to ponder whether or not I'd be wise to carry a gun (I'm a liberal atheist, so I just might )?

Well, the money would have to be pretty damn good at any rate.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 07:05 PM
 
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I voted yes. We are still a young nation but offhand I can't think of anybody else who's outdone us. Who would be the other candidates?
 
Old 05-14-2014, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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I don't have to be escorted by a male when I leave the house. I have choices that woman in other countries only dream of, I have risen from middle class to upper middle class, and the list goes on. The U.S. isn't perfect but I don't think utopia is possible no matter what liberals think.

For the liberals who don't think the U.S. is a good place to live, have you considered moving to a country that you think is better?

I did-and love it!! MY quality of life has improved dramatically. I can't think of any freedoms that the U$ has, that we don't have in OZ. Other than the freedom to be at high risk to get shot everytime I leave the house. My 4 ft 9 74 lb gf can also go anywhere unescorted in Australia, even Sydney- pop. over 4 million. She can also be anything she wants to be also. I went from only making $8-9 per hour in america to 29 Down Under. I don't need a car to survive as public transportation here is awesome. I don't have to worry about my health care here. My income tax rate for next year will be approx $2090, where my tax for that same income in america would be over $approx $2500. so much for those God-awful Aussie income taxes
 
Old 05-14-2014, 07:13 PM
 
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I did-and love it!! MY quality of life has improved dramatically. I can't think of any freedoms that the U$ has, that we don't have in OZ. Other than the freedom to be at high risk to get shot everytime I leave the house. My 4 ft 9 74 lb gf can also go anywhere unescorted in Australia, even Sydney- pop. over 4 million. She can also be anything she wants to be also. I went from only making $8-9 per hour in america to 29 Down Under. I don't need a car to survive as public transportation here is awesome. I don't have to worry about my health care here. My income tax rate for next year will be approx $2090, where my tax for that same income in america would be over $approx $2500. so much for those God-awful Aussie income taxes
Yeah, but aren't you guys suffering under the yoke of universal healthcare down there? And what do you do when the thugs come after you?
 
Old 05-14-2014, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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I have to also clarify that America did not invent Nuclear Power. It was the Italian national Enrico Fermi.

Enrico Fermi did not invent the Nuclear Reactor, The man who filed patents for it (The inventor) was a Hungarian refugee named Leo Szilard who was a nuclear theorist. Szilards patent for the idea of a chain reaction also advanced the claim it could be used to make a uranium bomb of enormous power. His patent was filed in 1939 and was given by Szilard to the British Admiralty. It led to the British M.A.U.D. Report to assess the feasiblity of Szilard's invention and then the new British PM Mr Churchill launched the Tube Alloy Project to get the Bomb before Germany. The world's first chain reaction was created by three German physicists Otto Hahn, Fritz Strassman and Lise Meitner. Fraulein Meitner was not given proper credit even though she did most of the work becuase she was a woman and even worse Jewish. Fortunately, she fled Germany before it was too late and came to America. It was the Hahn, and Strassman paper onb the discovery that paniced Physicists in the USA to lobby FDR (Prof Einstein wrote the letter to FDR) to get a crash effort going in the USA and to Dr Szilard;s efforts in Britain. Fermi's semial contribution was be also discovered the spontaneous fission of Actinides and stimulated fission by bombarding uranium with neutrons. Fermi found the he could increase the reaction rate in a given piece of natural uranium by slowing the neutrons down by passing them through a block of candle wax. Fermi didn't publish the last piece of work about neutron slowing or moderation with the easily availabe parafin wax he did in Rome in 1937 and when it came time to build the Atomic Pile (reactor) in 1942 he substituted industrial grade graphite for the parafin (wax) because he understood the noderatyor was carbon 12. Enrico Fermi was a true giant in 20th century physics and the rare double a great experimentalist and a great theorist. To honor Prof. Fermi the Atomic Energy Commission now the Dept. Energy annually gives the Enrico Fermi Award for outstanding contributions to the the Basic Energy Sciences.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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I voted yes. We are still a young nation but offhand I can't think of anybody else who's outdone us. Who would be the other candidates?
The citizens of at least 10 nations are richer on a per capita basis than we are. More South Koreans have high speed internet than in the USA. The Japanese live significantly longer than Americans. The world's tallest building is over 1000ft 300 m taller than anything in the USA. The Saudis have begun to build a building that when done will be twice as tall as One World Trade Center. China has 5 times as many students studying STEM subjects and has more Ph.Ds in science and engineering than the USA. Should we go on,huh.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 10:30 PM
 
Location: USA
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Actually, it is somewhat of a masterpiece in the fact that we have the inherent ability to fight for those freedoms without resorting to bloody revolution in order to do so.
Lynchings and race riots, buddy.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 10:32 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I'd be willing to bet that every "NO" vote in the poll came from a liberal on this forum. No question about it.
Wrong.
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