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An ideal conservative/libertarian state of existence is feudalism, where money & property determines one's power. This is the inevitable outcome of a weak government, where people who control land and industry fill in the void in power left by the government and, unless they decide to help average people solely by their own generous hearts, can do as they see fit.
No, it's not. Why is that people forget it's a spectrum, with levels in between? That's like saying the ideal liberal/progressive existence is pure communism. Do you think that's true? Because the truth is that conservatives, neo-cons, and libertarians are to the right of the spectrum and liberals, progressives, and socialists are to the left. Why is that people always look at the extremes, ignoring the many levels in the middle??
I heard this idea in another thread and I wonder what is the difference Republican and Conservative. I understand Republican is a political party and Conservative is a political philosophy. But we see a huge cross-section between the two. A good number of Republicans are indeed Conservative. Those who aren't (and even less conservative people) gets the RINO (Republican In Name Only) title.
To me, the difference is just as I said is the difference between a political party and a political philosophy
You apparently were not around in 1995 when over 300 Democrats suddenly switched their political party and became Republicans, like Rick Perry. The vast majority of Republicans in office today are merely liberal Democrats pretending to be Republicans. They are not even remotely conservative. Hence, they deserve the label of RINO and should be purged from the Republican Party because they are doing their best to destroy the GOP. Another fine example of why Democrats have no honor, and all the more reason to purge these dishonorable liberal freaks from the GOP.
Take a deep breath and re-read my post you quoted, because you're agreeing with me.
AKA, the people claiming to be "conservatives" in todays politics are, by and large, anything but.
I don't agree with you. They never have and never will care about the size of the government in and of itself.
It is a lie and has nothing to do with conservatism.
conservatives generally are hateful people who are scared of a changing world and fighting to hold onto power for some traditional group.
That's who conservatives around the world are have been and will be.
That's the core of conservatism exclusion, fear, and wanting to dominate out groups.
Everything else shifts to meet that core belief.
So the size of government, low taxes, big military blah, blah, blah usually go with conservatism, but ultimately are irrelevant to the core which is maintaining that traditional group in power and fear and hatred of out groups who conservatives believe will destroy things if they aren't controlled and dominated and not really allowed full participation in government.
You apparently were not around in 1995 when over 300 Democrats suddenly switched their political party and became Republicans, like Rick Perry. The vast majority of Republicans in office today are merely liberal Democrats pretending to be Republicans. They are not even remotely conservative. Hence, they deserve the label of RINO and should be purged from the Republican Party because they are doing their best to destroy the GOP. Another fine example of why Democrats have no honor, and all the more reason to purge these dishonorable liberal freaks from the GOP.
I know people call them RINOs but I would call them Neo-Cons instead. They still believe in big central government and generally act like progressives but advocate for their own 'special interests'. Yes, the Republican party has been trying to purge them from the party due to the damage they have caused our party.
An ideal conservative/libertarian state of existence is feudalism, where money & property determines one's power. This is the inevitable outcome of a weak government, where people who control land and industry fill in the void in power left by the government and, unless they decide to help average people solely by their own generous hearts, can do as they see fit.
conservatives do favor feudalism although now it is called plutocracy. There is no question that conservatives have been pushing there whole economic regime is that more and more wealth and power rests in fewer and fewer people's hands.
Even now as the wealthiest 400 Americans have more wealth than the poorest 40% of Americans, the conservative economic programs consists of even more tax cuts for the very wealthy and corporations.
I don't agree with you. They never have and never will care about the size of the government in and of itself.
It is a lie and has nothing to do with conservatism.
conservatives generally are hateful people who are scared of a changing world and fighting to hold onto power for some traditional group.
That's who conservatives around the world are have been and will be.
That's the core of conservatism exclusion, fear, and wanting to dominate out groups.
Everything else shifts to meet that core belief.
So the size of government, low taxes, big military blah, blah, blah usually go with conservatism, but ultimately are irrelevant to the core which is maintaining that traditional group in power and fear and hatred of out groups who conservatives believe will destroy things if they aren't controlled and dominated and not really allowed full participation in government.
That's an awfully myopic opinion on conservatives that flies in the face of everything conservatives stand for. We advocate personal responsibility (that's not hateful). We advocate less centrally controlled government which often acts as a burden on the citizens (that's not hateful). We advocate less onerous regulations on businesses that hurt the economy and the working population (that's not hateful). I think your definition of conservatives is something you've pulled out of your mind that in no way, shape, or form represents the ideology. As an aside, how do you go through life thinking such thoughts about your fellow citizens? That much anger can't be healthy.
I don't agree with you. They never have and never will care about the size of the government in and of itself.
It is a lie and has nothing to do with conservatism.
conservatives generally are hateful people who are scared of a changing world and fighting to hold onto power for some traditional group.
That's who conservatives around the world are have been and will be.
That's the core of conservatism exclusion, fear, and wanting to dominate out groups.
Everything else shifts to meet that core belief.
So the size of government, low taxes, big military blah, blah, blah usually go with conservatism, but ultimately are irrelevant to the core which is maintaining that traditional group in power and fear and hatred of out groups who conservatives believe will destroy things if they aren't controlled and dominated and not really allowed full participation in government.
Hmmm stereotype much?
Well I am a conservative leaning Independent voter.
I believe we can cut our military by 25% no problem. That would be very possible if we stop playing world cop.
I believe in helping those who can't help themselves. Mentally impaired, Autistic people for example.
I believe in workfare instead of welfare. It worked well during the depression.
I have no desire to dominate any group, I also don't believe that any one group is superior to another.
I don't believe that it is our responsibility to get involved in every brush fire that pops up around the globe.
I don't believe that illegals regardless of nation of origin deserve any special rights, free passes, or opportunities above what those who follow the system are granted. I'll never believe that rewarding criminal behavior is the answer.
I believe that we should seek to drive out all government waste before raising taxes. Raising taxes will only empower further waste.
So tell me who am I attempting to dominate? Who do I fear?
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