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Old 05-15-2014, 05:49 PM
 
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The net has been cast and fish are caught. Now it is time to gut and clean them, so we the people can throw then in the frying pan.
There has to be consequences or they will do it again. The next time they will push it further.
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Old 05-15-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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The questions that Obamabots don't want answered per the IRS scandal:

#1 Lois Lerner said "[E]verybody is screaming at us right now 'Fix it now before the election. Can't you see how much these people are spending?" Who was screaming at her and what actions did she take to "fix it?"

#2 Lois Lerner blamed the targeting on line level people in Cincinnati, how can she then explain the following:
A) The line level people in Cincinnati had documentation that DC had asked for the targeting
B) Line level people in Cincinnati do not have control over other IRS branches, yet targeting happened at IRS branches literally from coast to coast
C) An IRS attorney has stated that the targeting came from an Obama appointee in DC

#3 After the story broke, Lois Lerner in an email said the "Tea Party matter is Dangerous" and asked if "the FEC could save the day." Why is this targeting coming to light so dangerous and why did you want the FEC to help you?

#4 Lois Lerner said that the targeting and questions asked were wrong, apologized, and had stopped. So why did her very office continue sending inappropriate questions targeting and auditing conservative groups with her name on the letters AFTER she admitted it was wrong and claimed it had stopped?

#5 Of the groups flagged for using conservative sounding words, 83% were conservative. Of those groups flagged 100% of the groups actually targeted with an audit were conservative and all of these groups were asked inappropriate questions. How is it that only conservative groups were audited with this program?

#6 Who at the IRS illegally leaked confidential IRS data of conservatives to left-leaning media? When did you find out about it and what have you done to stop it from happening again?

#7 Why did Lois Lerner, against regulations improperly contact the FEC directly about conservative groups?

#8 IRS employees were breaking the rules by campaigning for Obama on the job to citizens dealing with the IRS - what steps have you taken to prevent this from happening again?

Four questions Lois Lerner must answer about IRS scandal | Fox News
Does the Public deserve these IRS scandal questions answered?
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Old 05-15-2014, 07:02 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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There has to be consequences or they will do it again. The next time they will push it further.

They say some people just never learn their lesson, so the same lessons are done over and over again. At will of the people.

This administration rarely has taken responsibility for wrong doings, how in the hell do they even know the meaning of a consequence.

I have no doubt seeing Obama and his whack job administration, pushing things to the limit.
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Old 05-15-2014, 07:10 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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The net has been cast and fish are caught. Now it is time to gut and clean them, so we the people can throw then in the frying pan.

Indeed it has. Those who continue to make excuses, are the circus. Because the circus is dictated by this whack job administration and this President.

The circus is the many many tall tales that they continually tell the fools who believe them.

No corruption, have to be a complete utter big fool to believe that.

Corruption is that 4 set of parents still have no answers. Period.
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Old 05-15-2014, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Show me someone who believes this fake "scandal" and I will show you a fool. It's a fact that more liberal groups got audited than conservative groups and there are a hell of a lot more astroturf conservative groups out there.

It's delusional lies like this which cause most reasonable people to conclude that Republicans in general and the far right in particular are disconnected from reality and too crazy to vote for. So please keep it up, RWNJs.
Your opinion on the NOM case, then? This was a social conservative group whose donor list was illegally (feloniously) leaked by someone at the IRS (working under Lois Lerner) to a left wing activist, who posted it on line. The name of the IRS leaker is known by House investigators but not released. The right to privacy of donor lists was established by the NAACP in a SCOTUS case from 1958.

Neither the leaker nor the recipient have been held accountable by the DOJ. The head of NOM, a law professor, wonders why not:

Investigation IDs IRS Leaker | National Review Online
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“This should be a relatively simple matter,” he says. Also a professor of constitutional law, Eastman is point-blank. As if reading from the statute itself, he tells me, “Any person who inspects or discloses a tax return and knowingly is not authorized to have it is guilty of a felony, and we expect the Department of Justice to seek an indictment.” Only if Eric Holder’s DOJ does take up the case will the veil of privacy and the protection afforded by section 6103 be lifted.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If Bush had used the IRS to target left wing groups like unions or media matters the left would be going bat sh** crazy
And here we have right wingers freaking out over their PACs not getting tax exempt status because they weren't tax exempt. So in other words, this is just partisan nonsense designed to fuel the fire for the party to keep them politically focused.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Are right-wingers still upset that their PAC's were assumed to deserve, and were given, tax-exempt status while their applications were reviewed?

Good. Their purple faces and bloodshot eyes cheer me up to no end.
Of targeted groups, only 7 were Progressive and 100% were approved, while 104 conservative groups were targeted and only 46% approved.

To recap: Conservatives won the “who got scrutinized” category 104-7, the “who got rejected” column 54 percent to zero, and the “still in limbo or gave up” tally 56-0. Indeed, as this controversy unfolded, a USA Today analysis determined that over a 27-month period, not a single Tea Party tax-exempt application was given the green light, while “dozens” of liberal applicants were rubber-stamped.



IRS scoreboard: 100 percent of “targeted” liberal groups were approved, conservatives languished « The Greenroom

You are entitled to have your own opinion, but not to make up your own facts.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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Your opinion on the NOM case, then? This was a social conservative group whose donor list was illegally (feloniously) leaked by someone at the IRS (working under Lois Lerner) to a left wing activist, who posted it on line. The name of the IRS leaker is known by House investigators but not released. The right to privacy of donor lists was established by the NAACP in a SCOTUS case from 1958.

Neither the leaker nor the recipient have been held accountable by the DOJ. The head of NOM, a law professor, wonders why not:

Investigation IDs IRS Leaker | National Review Online
Obamabots are fine with government corruption to political ends, so long as it helps the Democrats.

Do you expect a serious answer from these sheep? I couldn't get any serious discussion going on why there shouldn't be answers to the IRS questions. They just want to sweep under the rug this scandal in case it traces back to Nix...err...I mean Obama.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:13 PM
 
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It pretty damn clear there was corruption here. And Obama told Americans on National Tv before the Super Bowl, "Not a smidgen". My God, this man is damn lucky the press still kisses his ass. If we had a news media that did its damn job, things would be much different, for the better, in this country.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:14 PM
 
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And here we have right wingers freaking out over their PACs not getting tax exempt status because they weren't tax exempt. So in other words, this is just partisan nonsense designed to fuel the fire for the party to keep them politically focused.
Someone at the IRS illegally leaked a conservative groups private info.

Lois Lerner lied about it being from rogue Cincinnati agents.

The IRS was asking questions that they legally can't ask to conservative groups and not to liberal ones. Why is that if there was no targeting?

IRS workers were illegally campaigning for Obama on the job when conducting business with citizens over tax returns.


1974 Democrats said using the IRS to badger political opponents is an impeachable offense, 2014 Democrats applaud it.
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