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Retired San Diego Fire Captain Bob Lyon, a firefighter for 35 years, says he believes a majority of the blazes were deliberately set. I have never seen that number of fires break out in that short a period of time,” Lyon said. At one point, more than eight wildfires were raging at the same time.
According to San Diego Fire-Rescue, the Bernardo Fire was sparked by accident by a backhoe operator working at a housing construction project near Del Norte High School. No structures were lost but a few minor injuries reported, mostly heat-related, city officials said.
“It's been my experience to have this number of fires in this close of time set is next to impossible for them to have been accidental,” Lyon said.
Cell phone video like the one sent in by a viewer that shows what could be the ignition point of the Cocos Fire are the kinds of things Lyon says investigators will be looking at. “Once they've got all that, the other thing they'll look for are previous people they've had encounters with for fire setters, somebody who has recently gotten out of prison, might have been an arsonist,” said Lyon.
Lyon says it will be difficult for investigators to obtain the proof they need because of where the wildfires may have originated, areas where there are typically few people around, making it possible for someone to drive out on a road, walk down a pathway, start a fire, leave the area and never be seen.
“A lot of the times these people start off, they'll start little fires here and there and they learn from their mistakes, and they get better and better at it,” Lyon said. “It's definitely a disturbed individual, along the lines of a person who might be a pedophile or any number of sick type mental mindsets,”
Who to believe? All the professional law enforcement people reporting that the fires were set by arsonists or the Governor who claims they started because of 'global warming'?
Who to believe? All the professional law enforcement people reporting that the fires were set by arsonists or the Governor who claims they started because of 'global warming'?
Even when we talk about how so many fires were started so quickly, and in a narrow area... some of you start throwing out conspiracy theory memes. All we did was point out the obvious.
Even when we talk about how so many fires were started so quickly, and in a narrow area... some of you start throwing out conspiracy theory memes. All we did was point out the obvious.
WTF is wrong with some of you?
You and Little Nut haven't offered any concrete evidence of fires that were started deliberately.....next.
On Tuesday we had the hot, dry east winds that are always a fire danger when they occur, though they are more common in October than in May. People around here always walk on eggshells during those times, because one dropped match can result in a fast-moving wildfire that this areas is known for.
Sure enough, three wildfires started Tuesday, widely separated. One near my house (Bernardo fire), and two others in the Dulzura area, some 40 miles away. The Dulzura ones were clobbered fast by firefighters, the Bernardo fire lasted longer but is now 75% contained.
And the winds picked up again on Wednesday... and ***9*** separate fires broke out, all north of here, all within a few hours of each other. Some are getting fairly well contained, others are still out of control. Some 20-plus houses have been destroyed so far, nobody killed yet thank God.
But ***9*** fires? All within a 30-mile area???
You can't have a fire without an ignition source. Once it starts, sure, these high winds, coupled with extremely low humidity (5%) and high temperatures (90+F), spread them like, well, wildfire.
But after three fires broke out on Tuesday, one becoming real big real fast, it's impossible to imagine that ANYBODY wasn't being REAL careful about any sparks, open flames, cigarettes, etc. on Wednesday.
And yet nine fires broke out on Wednesday.
WTH??? We usually don't get nine brush fires a month around here. Some people are stupid, but nobody is THAT stupid.
I've heard nothing about how the fires started. Only thing on the radio around here, is some commissioner choosing her words carefully, and saying "There is no CONCLUSIVE evidence about any of these fires being deliberately started."
Hmmm.
If it turns out that all nine fires just happened to be sparks from a fireplace (who lights a fireplace in the middle of the day when it's 90 degrees outside?), a carelessly dropped cigarette, a car with a draggin muffler, etc.... all occurring on the same day in the same area, within a few hours of each other. All purely by coincidence.
That would have to be the coincidence of the century.
So far the firefighters efforts have been concentrated on putting the fires out, and they are doing everything humanly possible.
But eventually the fires will be out, and people will start asking Why.
I've wondered if the authorities have lied to us by saying that they have a suspect(s) as a means of discouraging potential arsonists.
Sources: All but one fire burning in San Diego County have a suspicious ignition point
By: Team 10
Posted: 9:56 AM, May 15, 2014
Updated: 1 hour ago
Team 10 sources say all but one of the fires that have been burning across San Diego County have a suspicious ignition point.
'Fire bugs' is the term being used inside the fire agencies. Sources say the fires started in a way that were not normal -- there were no sparks from a lawnmower or car engine, no thrown cigarettes and no cars involved.
One source, a long-time arson investigator who is now retired, told us that CAL FIRE has a crack investigative team that will be looking closely at physical evidence and talking to witnesses to try to determine exactly how these fires started. The San Diego Fire Department also has an investigative team that will be looking into this.
Locals will be asked if they saw anything suspicious or noticed strange activity in their area.
Who to believe? All the professional law enforcement people reporting that the fires were set by arsonists or the Governor who claims they started because of 'global warming'?
You're not very smart are you? Do you even know the difference between proximate and ultimate factors? One is the immediate cause, how that one fire was started, while the other is the wider conditions which made the situation possible. I.E. why we are in the worst drought in recorded history, why local temperatures were 20-30 degrees above normal, why we were having santa anas in spring, etc...
Even when we talk about how so many fires were started so quickly, and in a narrow area... some of you start throwing out conspiracy theory memes. All we did was point out the obvious.
Even when we talk about how so many fires were started so quickly, and in a narrow area... some of you start throwing out conspiracy theory memes. All we did was point out the obvious.
WTF is wrong with some of you?
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Originally Posted by wytrvn
You and Little Nut haven't offered any concrete evidence of fires that were started deliberately.....next.
TY for proving my point.
I posted links to two cites with investigators saying most of the fires appear to be suspicious. You're attacking me for believing it could be arson. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's the opposite. It's called common sense.
I mean... You do realize that you're arguing for the sake of argument and looking ignorant in the process, right?
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