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More insight from the person who thinks they know what they're talking about when it comes to running a business, but actually doesn't.
So your definition of running a business involves your employees being subsidized by everyone else? Well....OK so maybe yes for YOU, but for the rest of us, we dont think helping you pay your employees is a measure of a successful business.....
#10. I vote Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I’ve decided to marry my German Shepherd.
#9. I vote Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon at 15% isn’t.
#8. I vote Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.
#7. I vote Democrat because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.
#6. I vote Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves. I am also thankful that we have a 911 service that get police to your home in order to identify your body after a home invasion.
#5. I vote Democrat because I'm not concerned about millions of babies being aborted so long as we keep all death row inmates alive and comfy and get sex change operations if they want one on the tax payers dime.
#4. I vote Democrat because I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education, and Social Security benefits, and we should take away Social Security from those who paid into it.
#3. I vote Democrat because I believe that businesses should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as the Democrat Party sees fit.
#2. I vote Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.
…And the #1 reason I vote Democrat is because I think it's better to pay $billions$ for oil to people who hate us, but not drill our own because it might upset some endangered beetle, gopher or fish here in America. We don't care about the beetles, gophers or fish in those other countries.
Minimum wage, eligibility levels, benefit levels, basically anything that we say "this is the floor or ceiling of income for purpose X"
We could peg some to GDP alternatively if it made sense. But all too often we say "X is good enough" without understanding that the value of X changes over time.
Minimum wage, eligibility levels, benefit levels, basically anything that we say "this is the floor or ceiling of income for purpose X"
We could peg some to GDP alternatively if it made sense. But all too often we say "X is good enough" without understanding that the value of X changes over time.
Minimum wage has kept with official inflation. Are you suggesting the government is lying about the inflation rate?
??? Doesn't that assume that mainstream jobs pay minimum wage? If a minimum wage worker gets a 25% raise and 5% of his spending is on goods and services produced and sold with domestic minimum wage labor, how does his purchasing power NOT increase?
I see that you conveniently glossed over my reply to you about how I worked hard for a year to get what I wanted. Didn't fit your agenda? As for this question, it's been answered already, by others on this thread. When you raise minimum wage, you DECREASE your spending power. If you want to INCREASE your spending power then you either get a better job, or you get another job. That is how you increase your spending power.
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Originally Posted by Storm Eagle
Could you say that with a straight face. You do not know people's situation. Yeah you can live within your means you might make it that is until you have an unexpected bill you can not pay because you did not make enough money to save anything. Really thousands any proof there?
LOL, speaking of assumptions. I've lived it. I've been poor as dirt. I've been homeless. I've gone hungry to the point that I lost 30 pounds in a month, (and I did not have 30 pounds to lose, fyi). Don't even try to tell me that I don't understand. Like hell I don't understand. And yet, I STILL didn't ask for a hand out. I worked myself OUT of that situation. I didn't make excuses, I didn't whine, I didn't sit in a corner and cry about how unfair it all was, instead, I did what I had to do to get the F out of that situation. Don't even dare tell me how I don't understand. And you're damn straight I say that all with a straight face.
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Originally Posted by freemkt
That's what payday loans are for.
I hope you weren't serious. That's a fast way to spiral out of control in to a pit of debt you will never get out of.
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Originally Posted by bored chick
$10 an hour isn't exactly liveable either, especially if you are single. What kind of housing can you afford at $10/hr? Car? Utilities? Food? Insurance? What if an unexpected expense comes up?
I already posted about this, so let me refresh your memory - this is what you do when you have unexpected expenses that 'come up':
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow
I DIDN'T have a car for a year, those are the three jobs. Why three jobs? Because I wanted to get my car fixed. It's expensive to put in a new engine in your car, did you know that? It IS cheaper than getting a new car, or a used car, but it is still expensive. Did I sit around whining that I didn't have a working car to drive? NO! I worked my ASS off for an entire year! My car broke May 18, 2013. I JUST got it back, fixed, last Tuesday. Now, again, what makes anyone else unable to do the same if they want something? Nothing. Nothing at all except laziness.
Now, as stated above, I've been down the poor road. I do know exactly what it's like. I know what it's like to count change for the bus and think to myself, "Gee, if I buy even one pop this week out of the pop machine at work, I won't have enough money for bus fare to get home Friday". Yes, I know exactly what it's like to be poor. Raising the minimum wage only raises prices in the area, and the extra money that I just earned doesn't get me a single thing more than it did before the wage was raised. I wonder how I know that? HMMMMMM. Because I've lived in an area that has a high minimum wage, one of the highest in this country, and the price of everything in that area is ridiculously expensive. Min wage goes up? The prices go up. The other alternative is you have less jobs to choose from. I wonder how I know that. HMMMMM. (See previous statement.) How you deal with rent, food, "unexpected expenses" is you get ANOTHER FRICKEN JOB.
I've also said this several times on CD: When you are poor, there is NO. ROOM. FOR. ERROR. None. I know that. I've been through it. Normal things that people have to deal with, they can get done in the next two weeks or next month, but those who don't make jack, it can take awhile...even something as simple as paying a heating bill. The answer is not to raise the minimum wage, waiting for the government to help you, the answer is HELP YOURSELF and get another damn job, or two more jobs, whatever, until you CAN have some room for error.
Last edited by Three Wolves In Snow; 05-20-2014 at 10:07 PM..
well, most minimum wage jobs are entry-level positions. The primary value of a minimum wage job is the on-the-job training it provides, not the present low pay.
Raising the minimum wage makes these entry-level jobs harder to find. That makes it harder for less skilled workers to gain the skills necessary to get ahead.
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