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Old 05-16-2014, 02:43 PM
 
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For whom? The USGOV is not responsible for Swazilanders medical bills.
We should not be.
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Old 05-16-2014, 02:45 PM
 
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NPR did a feature on this issue a week or so ago. Pilot programs have shown a dramatic decline in HIV transmission rates after the circumcisions. The estimated cost of this particular program is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of not doing it. Any suggestion of castration is offensive.
Yes, if we're paying for the HIV drugs, this is way cheaper, how much does a snipper cost? I would wonder why they can't learn to just do them themselves, give them a few snippers and it shouldn't take more than a minute instruction time.
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Old 05-16-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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Yes, if we're paying for the HIV drugs, this is way cheaper, how much does a snipper cost? I would wonder why they can't learn to just do them themselves, give them a few snippers and it shouldn't take more than a minute instruction time.
If we just stay out of it nature will fix the problem.
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Old 05-16-2014, 02:48 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Why? Is Swaziland becoming overpopulated?
And circumcision would change that how?
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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If we just stay out of it nature will fix the problem.
I agree. I don't see how saving thousands or millions of impoverished people makes it any easier for a poor country to support itself. This kind of aid creates more dependence on the US for their survival.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:30 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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If we just stay out of it nature will fix the problem.
AIDS is completely behavior based. Let things go, if people stop engaging in such behaviors within a generation the problem will disappear. Why do we spend billions so that people can continue to engage in dangerous behaviors?

A while back a coworker active in such communities approached me about sponsoring a bike ride. I said "you want me to pay so that your friends can continue to [play catcher & pitcher]?" The problem will solve itself. In Africa, it's cultural practices and other irresponsible behavior which spreads the disease. Stop doing that, people!!!
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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It's crazy considering that we have to borrow the money to do this. Would you take out a loan to pay for a neighbors circumcision surgery? If he begged enough, I might give him $10 to buy a box of condoms...problem solved.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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allAfrica.com: Swaziland: King Mswati Spends and Spends (Page 1 of 2)

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King Mswati is estimated to have 14 wives and a royal family that is so large nobody is quite sure of its exact size.
He has taken huge increases in his slice of the Swaziland budget in recent years.
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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I thought it was funny. I guess not everyone has the same sense of humor.
Castration just isn't that funny.
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:04 PM
 
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Castration just isn't that funny.
In solving the AIDS problem, why not cut it off at the source?
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