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And no farm subsidies and any other "hidden" welfare?
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Originally Posted by JimRom
Better idea. Let's raise the minimum wage and make it impossible for anyone who has a job to collect any sort of public assistance. After all, raising the minimum wage is going to give minimum wage workers a "livable wage" so they won't need welfare anymore, right?
And no farm subsidies and any other "hidden" welfare?
Sure thing. After all, if we're going to mess with the economy let's go all out. Meat and produce are too cheap now, anyway, right? Let's go ahead and put the productive people who bring our food to the market in the same bag with the non-productive ones who are unwilling to go out and work for a living. There's no way that can go wrong.
All right. Let's eliminate all welfare to working people and all welfare to business but also let's eliminate the mechanism where some states contribute to the federal coffers while some take from it. Let's make every state responsible for itself. Ok?
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Originally Posted by JimRom
Sure thing. After all, if we're going to mess with the economy let's go all out. Meat and produce are too cheap now, anyway, right? Let's go ahead and put the productive people who bring our food to the market in the same bag with the non-productive ones who are unwilling to go out and work for a living. There's no way that can go wrong.
All right. Let's eliminate all welfare to working people and all welfare to business but also let's eliminate the mechanism where some states contribute to the federal coffers while some take from it. Let's make every state responsible for itself. Ok?
Nope it's our business as our tax incentives allow them to realize big profits and our taxes allow the to pay people less, knowing that the state with help out with food stamps and other assistance. Stop corporate welfare - raise the minimum wage....
These low paying large corporations also raise tax rates for all Americans. When workers don't make enough money to live they are forced to use government assistance programs, and its our tax dollars that pay for the government assistance programs.
Walmart and McDonalds are already offering 2 million people THE best opportunity they have available. (Otherwise they would not show up for work.)
It is not any employer's fault that a particular employee has failed to make himself or herself sufficiently valuable to the rest of society to pull their own weight.
Why don't you start a business and try paying above-market value for labor, and see how that works out?
Walmart and McDonalds are already offering 2 million people THE best opportunity they have available. (Otherwise they would not show up for work.)
It is not any employer's fault that a particular employee has failed to make himself or herself sufficiently valuable to the rest of society to pull their own weight.
Why don't you start a business and try paying above-market value for labor, and see how that works out?
If their employees are in poverty then how is that the best opportunity? They have made themselves valuable to the company would these companies succeed without them? They are working they are pulling their own weight just because they do not have a high paying job does not make them not valuable.
If their employees are in poverty then how is that the best opportunity? They have made themselves valuable to the company would these companies succeed without them? They are working they are pulling their own weight just because they do not have a high paying job does not make them not valuable.
These companies would survive quite well if their employees walked out tomorrow. They would have new employees the next day, and would at worst suffer a brief period of slower service for their customers while the new employees got up to speed. When you have a very limited set of skills you are quite replaceable. The goal for every worker should be to make it less cost effective to replace them than it is to keep hem. This is done by having a larger skill set and a good work ethic. Not surprisingly, these 2 simple things also lead to raises and promotions.
...... This is done by having a larger skill set and a good work ethic. Not surprisingly, these 2 simple things also lead to raises and promotions.
Still living in the 20th century? This is the 21st century America and if you come in every day and do your job then when you are 40 your billion $ corporation will reward you with $9.00 an hour and one personal day!
Still living in the 20th century? This is the 21st century America and if you come in every day and do your job then when you are 40 your billion $ corporation will reward you with $9.00 an hour and one personal day!
I started a new part-time job 3 months ago because we're saving money for a home purchase. It isn't anything special, just working midnights in a convenience store (no daycare cost that way). I got a raise after 2 weeks, because I actively look for things that need to be done, cleaned, or fixed. I'm currently looking at a promotion which brings a much heftier raise for the same reason. Haven't decided if I am going to accept yet, as it would mean more hours and I'm not sure if I want to take the time away from my family and my other endeavors, but it has been offered. This is a multi-state corporate chain that I'm working at. Please, tell me more about how having a good work ethic and a diverse set of skills doesn't lead to advancement. I've had one long-term job in my entire life which didn't reward production. Know how I handled that? I got a new job with a better company that recognized when their employees were achievers. Your victim mentality doesn't exist in my world, nor will it - ever.
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