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Old 05-22-2014, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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Why would you assume anybody was armed? Probably because you live in some bum**** part of the country where people have to carry guns to feel good about themselves.
With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.

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Old 05-22-2014, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.

(Look it up .. Google it)
This wasn't a public shooting. It happened on private property.

EDIT: the Giffords shooting was also on private property.
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:19 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Do you assume places that don't say guns aren't allowed somehow are full of armed people? I am sure a criminal doesn't care.
It might depend on which criminals we are talking about here.
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:22 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I sure would not rob one that I knew the people had guns.
Well, yeah--after all, this makes sense--if there is no risk of a robber getting shot, and if a robber is bright enough to figure this out, then it is only logical for such a robber not to rob a place where guns are allowed if there is another place where guns aren't allowed for him/her to rob.
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:23 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Why is this a controversy? Business owners should be able to craft their own business models.
Agreed. They should be able to have their own policies in regards to this and to deal with whatever consequences occur as a result of their policies.
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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I'm still looking forward to the case when a gun owner otherwise legally carrying, ignores one of these signs, and stops an armed criminal with his gun. Yes, I said OTHERWISE legally carrying, meaning that except for the fact they ignore the sign (which is not necessarily an inherently criminal offense in every state) they are legally carrying.

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This wasn't a public shooting. It happened on private property.

EDIT: the Giffords shooting was also on private property.
Even if it's privately owned, it's still generally open to the public as opposed to your house which is essentially invite-only.
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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How many armed robberies have you heard of that took place in a store that specialized in hunting equipment?
I wonder why very few criminals are dumb enough to walk into a gun store, pull a pistol, and yell "THIS IS A STICKUP!"
I don't think there has ever been a mass shooting in a police station. I wonder why?
There has never been a mass shooting at a firing range, either. I wonder why?
Perhaps criminals aren't all that dumb after all...
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I'm still looking forward to the case when a gun owner otherwise legally carrying, ignores one of these signs, and stops an armed criminal with his gun. Yes, I said OTHERWISE legally carrying, meaning that except for the fact they ignore the sign (which is not necessarily an inherently criminal offense in every state) they are legally carrying.


Even if it's privately owned, it's still generally open to the public as opposed to your house which is essentially invite-only.
Your above scenario (when it happens cuz it will) is going to be one heck of a day on C-D. Lol.

Another point:

Just because these "gun free" businesses don't allow customers to have firearms it doesn't mean the owner/staff isn't packing heat.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:13 PM
 
Location: WY
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Does that mean businesses that allow people to carry guns in them don't get robbed?
1. Yes. Absolutely. That's what it means. Every business that allows guns will always and forever be safe from robbery.

2. No. Never. That's not what it means. No business will ever ever ever be safe from robbery simply because folks are allowed to carry guns.

Pick one.

There is no discussion worthy of someone who deliberately chooses to be obtuse.

So just pick one of the above options already, go back to your puzzle books. and sleep well tonight.

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Old 05-23-2014, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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*SNIP*
Just because these "gun free" businesses don't allow customers to have firearms it doesn't mean the owner/staff isn't packing heat.
True, which I think is what some bar owners here in Georgia are going to do now that guns in bars aren't banned in bars at the state level. They can ban guns, but still have armed security either obviously, not so obviously, or the barman just has a pistol hidden under the counter kind of thing.
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