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Old 05-25-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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Ah! This Santa Barbara shooting is just another gold mine for you rabid gun people. Not a word about the people who died. Not really a word about the killer. Only how liberals want to take your guns away, when not one liberal politician has come out and proposed more gun control laws over this incident or made any statements to that effect.

All you've done is to use the incident as another soapbox for your same-o, same-o arguments against any form of control on your firearms. You suck the usual people into responding and then out comes the rants and diatribes against liberals, shredded constitution and "Wha, Wha, Wha, their trying to take away our guns." Just another excuse to put your rabid gun rights issues on page one of P&OC.
Anybody with a shred of common sense would ignore this thread for the blatent trolling that it is. I know you'll not get another post from me in this thread. I refuse to feed the self absorbed gun trolls and give them a platform.
I think it's the other way around. Every time there is a shooting, the media immediately goes after these poor grieving families in order to push the same tired agenda. However in this case the obvious can't be overlooked. The fact that there were stabbings and a car used as a weapon, and the fact that there were warning signs that he would do this.

But they parade a grieving distraught man in front of the cameras to beg Obama to "do something" and "blames the NRA" garnering sympathy in order to revisit this same old tired gun control agenda. That's what's so disturbing, it didn't even take a day.

We will see what will happen politically here in time.

 
Old 05-25-2014, 12:35 PM
 
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Seems to me the shooters family is ALSO blaming guns.

Alleged Gunman's Family Releases Statement Supporting Gun Control
He knows by saying that it will help keep the media off his back.
 
Old 05-25-2014, 12:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by florida.bob View Post
And the NRA death toll continues to rise ....
A year:

Heart disease: 597,689
Cancer: 574,743
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859
Alzheimer's disease: 83,494
Diabetes: 69,071
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476
Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364

Death by gun shot (homicide) 11,078

In 2009, according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, 67% of all homicides in the U.S. were conducted using a firearm.Two-thirds of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. are suicides. In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.

FASTSTATS - Leading Causes of Death
Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Too lazy to get 2014 stats but you get the idea.....
 
Old 05-25-2014, 12:36 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the Kona coffee fields
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The "Right To Bear Arms" protects gun nuts, the insane, and criminals: Nation suffers.

If we would replace it with the "Mandate To Bear Employment" the nation would be better off.
 
Old 05-25-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Seems to me the shooters family is ALSO blaming guns.

Alleged Gunman's Family Releases Statement Supporting Gun Control
Gun blammers cause death.

Gun blamers cause even more deaths.

Elliot Rodger was a gun blammer, a knife poker and a car swerver.
 
Old 05-25-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Lol, I think you took that entirely to serious. You should have bolded the whole thing about "explaining women". Any guy who feels he "deserves" a woman to want him had a serious negligence in his upbringing. I just , faceitiously, pointed at the Father because I remember asking my Dad to help me understand matters of not understanding the female of the species. And the answer was simple, don't try. Just go with it.
Obviously, this kkd was beyond help. Living in a complete fantasy world. I'm not sure I quite get how assigning blame to a Father for gaps in parenting is anything unusual as opposed to a Mother either.But, I wasn't trying to actually get deep about that. Reading that quote from the kids status page, I was just so floored by it , it left me thinking "is this for real"?!
That's good advice for either sex....lol
 
Old 05-25-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Seems to me the shooters family is ALSO blaming guns.
Of course. It's so much easier for people to blame something else than to admit to their own failure as parents.
 
Old 05-25-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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He knows by saying that it will help keep the media off his back.
He's just practicing self-defense.
 
Old 05-25-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Originally Posted by pollyrobin View Post
A year:

Heart disease: 597,689
Cancer: 574,743
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859
Alzheimer's disease: 83,494
Diabetes: 69,071
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476
Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364

Death by gun shot (homicide) 11,078

In 2009, according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, 67% of all homicides in the U.S. were conducted using a firearm.Two-thirds of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. are suicides. In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.

FASTSTATS - Leading Causes of Death
Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Too lazy to get 2014 stats but you get the idea.....
Yes. And we work very hard at doing something about all those .....except.... gun shot homicide. Imagine that?
 
Old 05-25-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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All 3 guns were purchased legally. The NRA is against background checks and efforts to limit gun ownership.
You are full of cr@p!

In 1934, the NRA supported the National Firearms Act, which served to regulate and tax firearms that were considered used by gangsters at the time. They also supported the Gun Control Act of 1968, which expanded on the system to license firearm dealers and prohibit criminals and those with mental impairments from owning firearms.


The NRA's current stance on gun control is to enforce existing laws more aggressively.

In 2008, in response to the Virgina Tech shooting, the NRA helped to pass the "NICS Improvement Act," which would provide increased funding and grants to states to report vital information to the National Instant Background Check System (NICS), such as mental health.

The NICS is used for background checks of potential gun buyers. Unfortunately, the system has been woefully underfunded (receiving only 5.3% of the authorized funding) and reporting has been lackluster.

In addition, the NRA has pointed out that those who lie on their background checks when purchasing firearms are for the most part not prosecuted.

In response to this, Vice President Biden claimed that they "don't have the time" to prosecute such violations, which, by the way, carries a minimum 5 year federal sentence, if convicted under the Gun Control Act of 1968.
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