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NRA doesn't receive it's funding from just any companies, but companies who have a financial stake in NRA success. Cut the patriotic BS: NRA is nothing more but an advertising arm of gun manufacturers. All NRA cares about is increased gun sales.
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Originally Posted by shooting4life
Just wondering if you think the Red Cross is all about making money? Perhaps the ACLU? Just think of the millions the ACLU spends lobbying. The ACLU gets over 60% of its money from private companies!!!! Oh my god the horror, they are only out to make money!!!!1!1!!1!111
Wrong lol. There is plenty of evidence gun control works, that's why all other industrialized countries decided to ban guns and have murder rates many times lower than ours, being it France, Japan, Australia, Germany or our neighbor Canada. The same Canada that banned guns and enjoys a murder rate FIVE TIMES LOWER than ours. FIVE TIMES. do you think it's a coincidence? Lol
You say gun control doesn't work? It works everywhere else and there is data to prove it. Gun control works.
Right, and many other countries that banned guns have a much higher murder rate than ours. Coincidence you leave that out? Lol.
Gun control doesn't work, otherwise the places in the US with the most gun control would have the lowest crime rate.
Just admit that crime rate has no correlation to guns ownership so we can move on.
If you want to talk about further reducing violent crime (it's at a 30 year low btw) then we can. First by addressing the actual pre coursers to crime, such as growing up in a one parent household and to a parent that did not graduate high school. It really is amazing, that in this country just about everyone that has two parents, graduates high school and does not have a child until their mid 20's stays out of prison and has a productive life. Maybe you should be worrying about these things which actually matter.
NRA doesn't receive it's funding from just any companies, but companies who have a financial stake in NRA success. Cut the patriotic BS: NRA is nothing more but an advertising arm of gun manufacturers. All NRA cares about is increased gun sales.
The NRA cares about protecting the civil rights of all Americans.
I wonder what percent of each gun sale goes to the NRA? Let me answer to save everyone the hassle of a google search, 0%.
NRA doesn't receive it's funding from just any companies, but companies who have a financial stake in NRA success. Cut the patriotic BS: NRA is nothing more but an advertising arm of gun manufacturers. All NRA cares about is increased gun sales.
We realise you have to frame the argument this way so that you can make it seem like it's "corporations vs. the people" and that way you can get the 99%'ers all riled up but that is just a false argument, entirely.
You want facts? Here's one.....
The majority of people in this country have a favorable opinion of the NRA { according to polls } and if that were not so, they wouldn't have near the political clout that they currently enjoy.
Gun control doesn't work, otherwise the places in the US with the most gun control would have the lowest crime rate.
Not necessarily, small towns and rural areas due to lower density of population are always statistically safer.
Let's compare two similar in size states: 20 million big New York State and 20 million big Florida. Murder rate in NYS - 3.5, Florida - 5.2. NYS has strict gun control, Florida loves guns. Any questions?
Right, and many other countries that banned guns have a much higher murder rate than ours. Coincidence you leave that out? Lol.
Gun control doesn't work, otherwise the places in the US with the most gun control would have the lowest crime rate.
Just admit that crime rate has no correlation to guns ownership so we can move on.
If you want to talk about further reducing violent crime (it's at a 30 year low btw) then we can. First by addressing the actual pre coursers to crime, such as growing up in a one parent household and to a parent that did not graduate high school. It really is amazing, that in this country just about everyone that has two parents, graduates high school and does not have a child until their mid 20's stays out of prison and has a productive life. Maybe you should be worrying about these things which actually matter.
Addressing those problems would be much more complex and difficult. It's a lot easier to just ban guns....
The NRA cares about protecting the civil rights of all Americans.
I wonder what percent of each gun sale goes to the NRA? Let me answer to save everyone the hassle of a google search, 0%.
Oh, let's be fair now.... sometimes gun sales do result in donations to the NRA through "round-up" programs. Or, take Ruger for example. They donated a dollar to the NRA for every gun they sold a particular year.
That had to be because they are greedy corporations who are hell bent on criminals being allowed to buy their guns didn't it?
It couldn't possibly be because the NRA is the authority world wide at promoting safe gun handling and ownership.
Or rather if it wasn't for 100 million they spend on lobbying and advertising, lol
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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper 88
We realise you have to frame the argument this way so that you can make it seem like it's "corporations vs. the people" and that way you can get the 99%'ers all riled up but that is just a false argument, entirely.
You want facts? Here's one.....
The majority of people in this country have a favorable opinion of the NRA { according to polls } and if that were not so, they wouldn't have near the political clout that they currently enjoy.
Oh, let's be fair now.... sometimes gun sales do result in donations to the NRA through "round-up" programs. Or, take Ruger for example. They donated a dollar to the NRA for every gun they sold a particular year.
That had to be because they are greedy corporations who are hell bent on criminals being allowed to buy their guns didn't it?
It couldn't possibly be because the NRA is the authority world wide at promoting safe gun handling and ownership.
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