Why are the Top 10 Most Violent Cities in the U.S all democratic strongholds? (Congress, FBI)

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by Finn_Cool

Yes but those liberal cities account for all the crime. Take Louisiana. Red controlled. But the majority of the homicides and gun crime occur in democratic held New Orleans.

The problem with this thread is you are trying to make it a black and white, liberals vs conservatives when cities don't function that way. Therefore you create a silly thread that turns into nothing more than conservative this and liberal that.

[Finn_Cool]

Originally Posted by katzpaw

Suburban sprawl and % black are the major factors here. The City of Phoenix leans Democratic.

You're right, Phoenix was Republican held and dominated until 2004, and then they switched and have 10 years of fairly strong Democratic support.

Interesting point about density and black percentage. What is your conclusion based on those factors?

[Finn_Cool]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

The problem with this thread is you are trying to make it a black and white, liberals vs conservatives when cities don't function that way. Therefore you create a silly thread that turns into nothing more than conservative this and liberal that.

I'm not making anything black and white. I'm simply posing a question. If you don't have an answer, or don't understand what is happening, just say so.

Back on topic, take Oakland and Chicago for instance. Years and years of Democratic intervention to try and "stop the crime", and it's been decades since these cities have been considered normal in terms of crime. They regularly top the Top 10 in gun homicides, and have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.

Republican Giuliani transforms New York City (largest city in the U.S) in less than 10 years from somewhat shady city to fairly safe large city.

Maybe the liberal left ideas on how to curb violent crime simply don't work.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by Finn_Cool

I'm not making anything black and white. I'm simply posing a question. If you don't have an answer, or don't understand what is happening, just say so.

Back on topic, take Oakland and Chicago for instance. Years and years of Democratic intervention to try and "stop the crime", and it's been decades since these cities have been considered normal in terms of crime. They regularly top the Top 10 in gun homicides, and have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.

Republican Giuliani transforms New York City (largest city in the U.S) in less than 10 years from somewhat shady city to fairly safe large city.

Maybe the liberal left ideas on how to curb violent crime simply don't work.

Okay, then take Seattle and Portland, both are low crime cities that both been liberal controlled for decades.

[lycos679]

Originally Posted by Finn_Cool

Miami (only recently with a republican Mayor)
Phoenix
Oklahoma City
Forth Worth
Salt Lake City
Wichita
Lincoln
Boise
Santa Ana (pretty much all of Orange County, pop. 3.1 million)

None of which appear in the Top 10.

Also note that Giuliani was Republican (New York City) and presided over one of the biggest drops in overall crime by any major city in the U.S until he left office in 2001.

Those aren't major cities.

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Oklahoma City, OK is #9 most dangerous.

And here's the list of the safest US cities.

http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2012...sFactSheet.pdf

1. El Paso, TX
2. San Diego, CA
3. NYC, NY
4. Austin, TX
5. San Jose, CA
6. Los Angeles, CA
7. Portland, OR
8. Charlotte, NC
9. Seattle, WA
10. San Antonio, TX

[lycos679]

Originally Posted by Finn_Cool

I'm not making anything black and white. I'm simply posing a question. If you don't have an answer, or don't understand what is happening, just say so.

Back on topic, take Oakland and Chicago for instance. Years and years of Democratic intervention to try and "stop the crime", and it's been decades since these cities have been considered normal in terms of crime. They regularly top the Top 10 in gun homicides, and have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.

Republican Giuliani transforms New York City (largest city in the U.S) in less than 10 years from somewhat shady city to fairly safe large city.

Maybe the liberal left ideas on how to curb violent crime simply don't work.

Chicago isn't in the top ten.

[Finn_Cool]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

Okay, then take Seattle and Portland, both are low crime cities that both been liberal controlled for decades.

Yes that's cool. But I'm talking about the cream of the crop dangerous cities. All liberal strongholds.

[katzpaw]

Originally Posted by lycos679

Those aren't major cities.

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Oklahoma City, OK is #9 most dangerous.

And here's the list of the safest US cities.

http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2012...sFactSheet.pdf

1. El Paso, TX
2. San Diego, CA
3. NYC, NY
4. Austin, TX
5. San Jose, CA
6. Los Angeles, CA
7. Portland, OR
8. Charlotte, NC
9. Seattle, WA
10. San Antonio, TX

Hey, those are mainly Democratic. You trying to confuse us with facts?

[Finn_Cool]

Originally Posted by lycos679

Those aren't major cities.

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Oklahoma City, OK is #9 most dangerous.

And here's the list of the safest US cities.

http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2012...sFactSheet.pdf

1. El Paso, TX
2. San Diego, CA
3. NYC, NY
4. Austin, TX
5. San Jose, CA
6. Los Angeles, CA
7. Portland, OR
8. Charlotte, NC
9. Seattle, WA
10. San Antonio, TX

Why didn't you post the rest of the list for most dangerous? You just cherry picked one single city!

1. Detroit, MI - Democrat
2. Baltimore, MD - Democrat
3. Memphis, TN - Democrat
4. Philadelphia, PA - Democrat
5. Washington, DC - Democrat
6. Indianapolis, IN - Democrat
7. Milwaukee, WI - Democrat
8. Columbus, OH - Democrat
9. Oklahoma City, OK
10. Houston, TX - Democrat

Besides OKC, the rest are democratic held cities. Why are you cherry picking the data? Show the entire list. Doing what you did makes you seem like you're hiding something and being dishonest.

[pantin23]

Because where there is higher crime, there is usually high poverty, and poorer urbanites tend to vote Democrat. There. Plain and simple...