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Old 06-01-2014, 09:01 PM
 
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There have also been very low numbers of tornadoes both this year and last.

However, a disproportionate number have been very strong.
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Old 06-01-2014, 10:01 PM
 
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There have also been very low numbers of tornadoes both this year and last.

However, a disproportionate number have been very strong.
Do you have a data source for your statements? I like to see numbers and sources. Thanks.
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Old 06-01-2014, 10:09 PM
 
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Do you have a data source for your statements? I like to see numbers and sources. Thanks.
2013 Tornadoes: Numbers Low, Destruction High -- ScienceDaily

Despite Spate of Tornadoes, 2014 on Track for Low Total | Climate Central

Tornado activity hits 60-year low

2012 also had a low number.
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Old 06-01-2014, 10:10 PM
 
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Thanks. I'm starting to read now.
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Old 06-01-2014, 10:26 PM
 
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Some perspective on tornado numbers:








Data from 1954 through 2012

I wish I could find an overlay chart so we could see the "all" tornadoes next to the "EF#+" tornadoes side by side year by year to get a better idea if the data supports the premise that a higher percentage of torandoes or of the "more severe" categories. But I do point the reader to the 1973, 1974, and 2011 years on both charts. 1974 had fewer the number of all tornadoes than did 1973, but over 45% more severe tornadoes. The 2012 versus 2011 number comparisons are interesting. Too tired to do the math in my head right now.
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Old 06-01-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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I was taking about a few years specifically, the main one of which (2013) isn't covered on either graph.

2011, on the other hand, was a year with tons of tornadoes including many violent ones.

Part of the reason for the low tornado numbers, at least in some areas, is severe drought and simply a lack of storms (or much of any kind of rain) altogether. Is this due to climate change? Maybe, maybe not.

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Old 06-01-2014, 10:35 PM
 
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When we are discussing climate...including whether it is changing in some way...looking at a few years is not really relevant to determining patterns over time.

Just because it snowed in December doesn't mean the climate isn't changing.
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Old 06-01-2014, 10:39 PM
 
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Meanwhile, our Idiot in Chief in the white house continues to hype his lies in an attempt to alarm the American people so he can expand government power even more; “We don’t have to choose between the health of our economy and the health of our children,” he said in his weekly address, which was recorded yesterday at Children’s National Medical Center in Washington. “As president, and as a parent, I refuse to condemn our children to a planet that’s beyond fixing.”

But his lies have nothing to do with the truth;

The U.S. has been extraordinarily fortunate lately: we have not been witness to the fury of a major hurricane (category 3 or higher) landfall since October 2005 when Wilma hit southwest Florida as a Category 3 storm. (Other countries have not had such good fortune these past few years. )

Atlantic hurricane season begins Sunday: Will record streak without major hurricane landfall end?



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Old 06-01-2014, 10:46 PM
 
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When we are discussing climate...including whether it is changing in some way...looking at a few years is not really relevant to determining patterns over time.

Just because it snowed in December doesn't mean the climate isn't changing.
Actually, this was an abnormally cold winter in most of the country. Maybe that was due to climate change, maybe not. In general, weather seems to be getting more extreme.
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Old 06-01-2014, 10:58 PM
 
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I was taking about a few years specifically, the main one of which (2013) isn't covered on either graph.

2011, on the other hand, was a year with tons of tornadoes including many violent ones.

Part of the reason for the low tornado numbers, at least in some areas, is severe drought and simply a lack of storms (or much of any kind of rain) altogether. Is this due to climate change? Maybe, maybe not.
I could not find up to date charts on short notice. I'm still looking around, but I'm pretty much out of time for tonight.

I appreciate your sources and the jump points to begin my own research. I would love to see 100 years data showing total numbers of tornadoes side by side with total numbers of "extreme" tornadoes. I work better with tabular data.
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