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You sound like a guy that hasn't lived in the country etc. Sure you might grow and can enough for a year or two. Where is the cash coming from to buy toilet paper? Who will pay your medical bills? Are you going to be a mooch or animal as you say?
This is in a worse case situation if you don't have a job for more then a year, of which most people are on unemployment ( which the person paid into ) then they should be able to get by but that each persons different situation.
Food storage can last you longer then 2 years and if your smart and know what your storing with food you can have it for 20 years. With a gun and alot of bullets and knowledge you can live a long time without government assistance. I wonder if the system broke down how many people would be asking the government for water? Do you know how to collect and purify water without looking it up on the internet assuming you have electricity to look it up? Think about it, when it all comes down to it those DEPENDENT on government for food, water, electricity and when the government can't provide and they ration will these human beings be compassionate towards the government or become animals.
BTW this was about food stamps and welfare, medical assistance and options are plenty in this country just need to know where to go and who will help via charity. though stocking on medical supplies is not a bad idea either.
I can assure you most Americans in this country on food stamps aren't ready to survive without government.
The farmers will be very unhappy if food stamps, AKA SNAP, are eliminated from the budget.
why you mean they wouldnt get hand out from the government. i dont know we have 300 million people to feed here i am pretty sure they would be doing just fine.
why you mean they wouldnt get hand out from the government. i dont know we have 300 million people to feed here i am pretty sure they would be doing just fine.
I am not so sure.
Farming is big business now in many cases.
The food stamp program also has other subsidies for farmers......big and small.
Yet you are dependent on the government! Everyone living in America is dependent on government because a stable federal government and state and local governments, enables everything else to work. It's the governments that you hate that enable our power grid to function, our communications systems to function, our entire economy to function, etc. You don't believe me? Look at how people are forced to live where there isn't a strong, stable central government and stable local governments. Heck, look at how the backwoods areas of America struggled before there were canals and plank turnpikes and railroads! Look at the Southeast before the Tennessee Valley Authority! The internet you're posting on is the result of government support!
Get a clue. Anarchy doesn't work. That's been demonstrated throughout history. What you get is petty warlords who rule however they want.
Since you don't like it here and think that your fellow Americans are either fools or animals, maybe you should pack your bags and head for some anarchistic haven like Somalia where maybe you can become a warlord yourself and force children to starve so you can hoard your pieces of silver.
Who said anything about no government because I am tired of paying for the welfare and warfare state I want Anarchy?. I just don't need government to FEED me, house me, and pay for my existence by taking from others and I don't need government run socialism via the rest of the world either. There is a difference between liberty and state-ism you should get the clue. Most of the systems built in this country did not come from government they were created by industries and individuals. Government in a free society with the LAW OF THE LAND the constitution created opportunity for freedom to think and do without the government in our pockets and controlling everything. Government here (US) of which encourages freedom didn't interfere so much as it does today. today everything is a government programs, and interfering with everything. Which is why years ago we created and invented some of the greatest things in modern history until government continues to get in the away. Corporations and governments ignore the freedom of individuals for more power and money in their pockets because principles of liberty are IGNORED and dependents are created. The government is needed for a few things of which even in a free society the internet would be running without the government and is not needed. The government always comes in after something is up and working and then tries to "RUN IT or use to to take more control of us" NSA, internet spying etc.
I like how you use the word strong central and local government of which are empowered by free people to represent us the individuals of such states. But to that POWER when too strong becomes to the point of supporting those who don't work, tyranny is its main function and I see how strong CENTRAL governments work. INNER cities with high taxes, poor education rates and more money then any other cities where they are the poorest have the highest crime, on government assistance these cities have STRONG central government. Why is that? Nanny states have STRONG central government and high taxes on local or federal levels. The more power and money governments have means less freedom for INDIVIDUALS and we become groups of poor, middle class, rich etc instead of AMERICANS. These so called Americans are not interested in liberty these days, government assistance is safety of which is voter blocks, union corruption and power to keep this form of slavery. Liberty is freedom and many americans born here have no idea and think liberty is Scary and to risky so they are safe and from cradle to grave governments take care of them.
Strong central government has NEVER removed poverty.
Less government and more freedom has lifted more people out of poverty then any concept or idea.
But food stamps, welfare and other government strong central power has NOT removed poverty and it is have not EVER provided JOBS!!
Individuals and free businesses create wealth and jobs and food and money not strong central governments. The only time i need a strong central government is the idea that we are free they are strong in their resolve to TAKE their oath seriously and OBEY the constitution and not to abuse power.
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This is in a worse case situation if you don't have a job for more then a year, of which most people are on unemployment ( which the person paid into ) then they should be able to get by but that each persons different situation.
Food storage can last you longer then 2 years and if your smart and know what your storing with food you can have it for 20 years. With a gun and alot of bullets and knowledge you can live a long time without government assistance. I wonder if the system broke down how many people would be asking the government for water? Do you know how to collect and purify water without looking it up on the internet assuming you have electricity to look it up? Think about it, when it all comes down to it those DEPENDENT on government for food, water, electricity and when the government can't provide and they ration will these human beings be compassionate towards the government or become animals.
BTW this was about food stamps and welfare, medical assistance and options are plenty in this country just need to know where to go and who will help via charity. though stocking on medical supplies is not a bad idea either.
I can assure you most Americans in this country on food stamps aren't ready to survive without government.
You can be SURVIVALIST if you want. Be sure and save up on the tinfoil.
What facts? The OP wants to eliminate the federal income tax because he thinks it's such a burden, but most people, on average, aren't paying much at all until you get to around $250K.
Doesn't matter. Income tax is one tax.
FICA, sales, property, and excise taxes exist. Lower classes pay all of those.
I paid almost 15% in income tax this year, with almost 8% FICA / Medicare, 6% state, property taxes on my rent, and sales taxes to the tune of 8.75% on everything except food. I don't make anywhere near $250K.
The right-wing can go somewhere with the bull**** that I don't pay taxes.
Precisely. He's another Ayn Rand lunatic who has defined himself as a "maker" and everyone else - particularly "those people" who he calls animals, though he'd rather use the n-world - as "takers." This then justifies in his sick mind any exploitation and abuse of "those people" because he thinks he deserves whatever he wants.
Clowns like him wouldn't last a week in their anarchy paradise, and he's too stupid and egotistical to realize that he's as much of a "taker" as everyone else. The sad part is what his kind REALLY want is anarchy so they are justified in killing "those people" - the "animals" - because "they deserve it."
Just another typical far-right wing genocidal lunatic.
So removing the welfare state is anarchy? WOW
We must have had serious anarchy back in the 1920s....
As far as your Ayn Rand Lunatic comments and your saying I would the use the n word only shows you have the typical response to anything that threatens a system your probably on.
Never once did I say those things and or imply anarchy or race only liberals do that because they have nothing else to say to defend their compassionate system of government run dependance.
The use of the word Animals was in reference to what those people (those on welfare) will act like when it disappears and or the government and or economic system crashes. Them more then most others because most others will still have a job though complete dependency will result in more acting out.
"welfare" as liberals define it is compassion.
If those on welfare have a system that crashes and or it doesn't work and in some crazy idealogy they think it stamps out poverty that is the biggest lie ever told. Let the system crash for a day or two and lets see how they act. Excuse me for not have compassion for people living off me and others and choose to live off the government. While yes some need the help who are on it the majority of them are on it because they choose to be!
You know what is compassionate!! Individuals giving of their own money or assistance via FREE will to other people.
Government programs are not interested in compassion liberals just think government force is compassion and are the true lunatics.
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