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Seattle will be just like San Francisco where if you don't make over $60k or more a year or are huddled 5-10 people per 1BD, you can't afford to live there unless you are homeless. Meanwhile, these liberal bastions so disdainful of the poor will pretend to care to get their agenda entrenched. Then they'll toss bread to food banks and shake their heads sadly when they must for sympathy and support. In reality, this minimum-wage hike will backfire and home-grown youth will not want to work at FF or janitorial at all. It won't create some divine enclave of haves shutting out the have-nots with parting gifts where a cheesy character played by Dennis Hopper reigns supreme. It didn't work in SF, why does Seattle think it will do so there?
But the cost of automation will decrease and the need to employ perennially low-skilled ya-yas will no longer be needed and then what? Basic income? How about forced sterilization and euthanasia? You mod liberals are steeped in the ideology of the social engineering types that dream of planned societies utilizing sweeping unilateral decrees and the destruction of entire cultures/races to smooth out the imperfections to achieve Utopia, so why not? If the proggy-types have had no issue with illegal immigration driving down wages for the last 15-20 years why have they acted so lamely so very late in the game?
The only jobs that pay minimum wage in Seattle are primarily service jobs like burger flippers, gas station attendants, or dishwashers. These jobs are not going anywhere. We don't really have any non-union stores like Winco or walmart, that will be dramatically affected by this wage increase in Seattle proper. Most Minimum wage type jobs already pay about $12 an hour in down town Seattle anyways. This probably seems odd to a lot of people that live in other parts of the country, but not a whole lot will change from this.
Just because it can't really be said much more succinctly than this...
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George Sheldon, professor of economics at the University of Basel, said the Swiss proposal would be counterproductive.
“Unemployment among the unskilled is increasing,†he said in a phone interview. “The solution to their problem can’t be to make them more expensive.â€
In Switzerland, one of those bastions of socialism we always hear about, it cost a measly $3000 USD/month for "taxes, social insurance and health insurance" plus $6,000/month for "daily needs such as food, rent, clothing and transport." That's for "the average two-person household" according to "the statistics office."
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When adjusted for purchasing power, the Swiss proposed wage would amount to $14.01 an hour. That’s more than the minimum wages in Luxembourg and France, at $10.60, and Australia at $10.20, according to 2012 data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
So who wants to go and say something stupid like the COL has nothing to do with minimum wages?
In Switzerland, one of those bastions of socialism we always hear about, it cost a measly $3000 USD/month for "taxes, social insurance and health insurance" plus $6,000/month for "daily needs such as food, rent, clothing and transport." That's for "the average two-person household" according to "the statistics office."
So who wants to go and say something stupid like the COL has nothing to do with minimum wages?
So you think if Switzerland didn't have any form of minimum wage that the COL would magically go down there? Wondering why Switzerland is expensive is like wondering why Manhattan is expensive.
I doubt it, why would minimum wage service jobs want to move out of a dense and profitable city?
Because, as has been explained to you many times, when government mandates business pay more than a job is worth it is no longer profitable. Only government can afford to throw money away with no return on investment, something Seattle politicians have decades of practice at.
Because, as has been explained to you many times, when government mandates business pay more than a job is worth it is no longer profitable. Only government can afford to throw money away with no return on investment, something Seattle politicians have decades of practice at.
So raising the minimum wage in Seattle over 3-7 years is gonna be the end of fast food in the city? I highly doubt that.
How will $15 an hour attract businesses to Seattle? Why locate in Seattle when you can hire cheaper workers in surrounding towns and other parts of the state? Or am I missing something?
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