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Doesn't do any good. The puppetmasters don't want the employers punished because they are dismantling the middle class which is their goal.
Wow. So now you think someone is hiding behind the scene seeking to destroy the middle class. So the employers hiring the illegals or the junkies buying drugs from the Mexican cartels have nothing to do with it. BUT you suggest we go to war with Mexico...because their poor, not their government are coming here for work. You realize how stupid that sound? Then you say that the puppetmasters are manipulating things. You are basically saying you want the puppet masters to send young adults into war with Mexico. That makes no sense at all. You want to the poor to suffer the most. Not the employers looking for cheap labor, not the junkies that are not doing anything with their, or the "puppermasters". No, Mexico has to suffer. Mexico is a 3rd world country. Its trying to fix itself. Of course it can't fast enough in order for their poor to stop coming over here. But it is. What do you want them to do? Build a wall to keep their poor in? Wouldn't that be a dictatorship then? The Poor have to suffer from corrupt cops and criminals and don't have the possibility to escape? I bet the United States will cry out that Mexico is acting tyrannical then.
Listen to yourself. You don't mind Mexicans suffering but you believe there are puppetmasters who want to destroy the middleclass. Use common sense. If Mexicans want to see the United States destroyed why are they coming here for work? All that welfare crap is not true. Most Mexicans come here for work.
Wow. So now you think someone is hiding behind the scene seeking to destroy the middle class. So the employers hiring the illegals or the junkies buying drugs from the Mexican cartels have nothing to do with it. BUT you suggest we go to war with Mexico...because their poor, not their government are coming here for work. You realize how stupid that sound? Then you say that the puppetmasters are manipulating things. You are basically saying you want the puppet masters to send young adults into war with Mexico. That makes no sense at all. You want to the poor to suffer the most. Not the employers looking for cheap labor, not the junkies that are not doing anything with their, or the "puppermasters". No, Mexico has to suffer. Mexico is a 3rd world country. Its trying to fix itself. Of course it can't fast enough in order for their poor to stop coming over here. But it is. What do you want them to do? Build a wall to keep their poor in? Wouldn't that be a dictatorship then? The Poor have to suffer from corrupt cops and criminals and don't have the possibility to escape? I bet the United States will cry out that Mexico is acting tyrannical then.
Listen to yourself. You don't mind Mexicans suffering but you believe there are puppetmasters who want to destroy the middleclass. Use common sense. If Mexicans want to see the United States destroyed why are they coming here for work? All that welfare crap is not true. Most Mexicans come here for work.
It doesn't matter! Coming here illegally is against our immigration laws and they are stealing jobs and reducing wages and stealing taxes that should be for our own citizens. Who does this country belong to illegal Mexicans (or other illegals) or our own citizens? Mexican citizens are the responsibility of the Mexican government not ours. They need to seek change in their own country for their so-called suffering. Coming here illegally and reeking havoc on us is not the answer.
They aren't all working either. All they have to do is produce one anchor baby and they are entitled to all kinds of government handouts thru them compliments of the U.S. taxpayer.
You say you are an American citizen then why don't you respect our immigration laws? Are you one who is blinded by ethnic ties? Respecting our laws is a part of the assimilation process.
Would the US be justified in declaring war on Mexico?
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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
Mexico is completely ignoring their duties as a nation in respect to controlling their population and their border. Their cartels import drugs, weapons and slaves into the US. Their unhappy citizens cross our border in droves illegally.
If I was elected president the first call I make would be to the Mexican president making it clear that I see it as an act of war their complete failure to stop the drugs and the illegals.
Secure your country or we will do it for you and you might find Mexico to be 3 or 4 States in the US.
Another keyboard commando/armchair general's advice on a complex issue.
Every complicated problem has a simple, easy to understand solution that won't work.
We are by demanding e-verify be implemented in very workplace to stop their illegal hiring practices and those who don't comply would be punished severely. However, the illegals themselves are not the innocents in all of this either. They know right from wrong and should also be held accountable not rewarded instead.
AZ has had mandatory everify for several years now and to some extent it works. It works for legitimate businesses like McDonalds or the local carwash. If you frequent those places you will see teens and others who were displaced for years back behind the counter. But it fails miserably in others like home construction. There the workaround is that builders hire subs. The subs are legal but the people they bring to the job site are not. Pay is under the table. The practice was exposed in a TV investigation here and the builders just washed their hands of it saying they were shocked and appalled, but unfortunately powerless to do anything. Sheriff Joe did not run out to a home development and round anyone up either.
So many are benefiting from the cheap labor it is not going to be corralled any time soon. It's not just the builders, those homes cost less for a buyer, too, and makes homes more affordable in places like Texas and AZ. We pay on the backend, in higher taxes and social burdens.
How about instead of starting another war, we end the war on drugs. That would be a better war to stabilize Mexico.
Because that along with cutting off all of the benefits to illegals makes too much sense. Too much money is at stake. The US government plays both sides of the drug war, and a lot of folks profit from it. Look at the prison industry. Gotta keep those prisons full!
Because that along with cutting off all of the benefits to illegals makes too much sense. Too much money is at stake. The US government plays both sides of the drug war, and a lot of folks profit from it. Look at the prison industry. Gotta keep those prisons full!
When you talk like that it shows you have a poor grasp of the issue. The illegals are not here for benefits, they are here for work. They work like slaves for slave wages. You ought to know that. Their kids do end in our schools and the citizen ones get free this and that. But the reason they come is to find work, to make money, to buy and have things that would never be possible for them in their home countries. I'm not saying that is a reason to let them come. But we should put our focus on making it impossible to find work if we want to stem the tide. It's the same for drugs. Reduce demand and the supply problem takes care of itself.
No, you wouldn't. It's a stupid idea and you should feel bad for posting it.
So you're ok with the people in Mexico being so desperate that they would risk their very lives to come here with no documentation, risk of incarceration and deportation back with less than they had before?
That is the environment the MEXICAN GOVERNMENT has created for their citizens. They are so corrupt and they have no care for the welfare of their citizens. The people at the top are fabulously wealthy while their citizens live in plywood shacks.
At least a war would take out the people responsible for their hardship instead of the half measures like detaining the illegals and feeding them bad burritos.
Even a threatened war would be a huge attitude adjustment for Mexico. They might even start to work at creating opportunities and improving the lives of their citizens.
We fought wars in Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan for reasons far less pressing to the security and health of our country.
So you're ok with the people in Mexico being so desperate that they would risk their very lives to come here with no documentation, risk of incarceration and deportation back with less than they had before?
That is the environment the MEXICAN GOVERNMENT has created for their citizens. They are so corrupt and they have no care for the welfare of their citizens. The people at the top are fabulously wealthy while their citizens live in plywood shacks.
At least a war would take out the people responsible for their hardship instead of the half measures like detaining the illegals and feeding them bad burritos.
Even a threatened war would be a huge attitude adjustment for Mexico. They might even start to work at creating opportunities and improving the lives of their citizens.
We fought wars in Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan for reasons far less pressing to the security and health of our country.
We are headed for the same hell in the same handcart. The difference is that our plywood shacks will have "Made in China" stamped on them.
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Would the US be justified in declaring war on Mexico?
