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View Poll Results: Should a business owner be able to require English to be spoken in his business?
Yes - It is his business 90 91.84%
No - It is discrimination 7 7.14%
Not sure 1 1.02%
Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-15-2007, 04:14 PM
 
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I think its perfectly fine, as is the sticker in the window. Don't like it? Go away. Simple and blunt.
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Old 12-15-2007, 04:19 PM
 
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Here is a photo of the stores window
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And it does say "Please" (just above the "Speak".)

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... The only "english" he wants you to speak at his window is the word "cheese steak with or without" maybe learn the word "french fry"!!! It makes the line that wraps around his business on any given night go faster!!!
Spot on. People were holding up the lines.
Doesn't even have to be perfect English -- just get close -- "Whiz Wit" is normal ordering.

It's like going into a French restaurant and not knowing how to say croissant, or Italy not knowing how to say Parmesian. How can they know what you want?!

Vento and his family were immigrants themselves and had to learn English from scratch.

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Old 12-15-2007, 04:42 PM
 
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Wait! A business being able to do cater to whom they choose? I say no way....the government is setting the precedent with that one with smoking. According to many states, the business can not choose their public. As far as I am concerned, this is no different then legislating businesses who wish to cater to smokers. No granted....PA hasn't gone non-smoking yet but it will soon.....so therefore you no longer have a right to decide who to do business with. IMHO and my 2 cents.
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Old 12-15-2007, 04:50 PM
 
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Wait! A business being able to do cater to whom they choose? I say no way....the government is setting the precedent with that one with smoking. According to many states, the business can not choose their public. As far as I am concerned, this is no different then legislating businesses who wish to cater to smokers. No granted....PA hasn't gone non-smoking yet but it will soon.....so therefore you no longer have a right to decide who to do business with. IMHO and my 2 cents.

Lol, since when does refusing service to people who slow down the line cause cancer and ill related health to all others in the immediate area? It doesn't. Poor comparison.
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Old 12-15-2007, 04:52 PM
 
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I don't think so. It comes down to a legal definition of public and the members thereof. Laugh if you wish....but it is not really all that much 'out there'.
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:03 PM
 
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And it does say "Please" (just above the "Speak".)

Spot on. People were holding up the lines.
Doesn't even have to be perfect English -- just get close -- "Whiz Wit" is normal ordering.

It's like going into a French restaurant and not knowing how to say croissant, or Italy not knowing how to say Parmesian. How can they know what you want?!

Vento and his family were immigrants themselves and had to learn English from scratch.
I'm glad to see that it says "please".. (cant really tell from the photo).. but..

Again, English is not the language of America.. The sign is still incorrect.

Not debating his freedom with accepting any language he wishes, the sign is just wrong based upon a technicality.
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:06 PM
 
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Just a thought provoking statement: how does this differ then denying service based upon color of skin? Yeah, ones legal, the other isnt, but.. is it really any different? Many here say that people can learn english, but what if someone just got off that boat, went STRIGHT to this shop.. I doubt he could learn english that fast.

Something to think about.
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Well I think curtecy is a two way street. As a business owner I think it reasonable to demand your customers order in english. If they don't like it there are other places to to do business.
If I owned the business I would be the same way. I would say the official language in my store is english, speak it or hit the bricks no need to come back.
Another PC lawsuit...
By the way its completely different than refusing to serve based on race or skin color. We are born into a race and have no control of it. Language is by choice.
I think a better analogy would be: Its the same as denying service to those who use foul language. Intentionally speaking a foreign language in a country where the primary language is english is simply rude.
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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If I'm ever in Philly, I'll buy my first cheesesteak there. I've never had one.

Good for him, wish more were like him.
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Pa
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If I'm ever in Philly, I'll buy my first cheesesteak there. I've never had one.

Good for him, wish more were like him.
Ah you have missed out. A good cheesesteak is to die for.
Me I like mine fried onions and sweet peppers just a touch of kethup.
Mushrooms every now and then kick it too.
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